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Windows 10 Automatic Updates Start Causing Problems
Forbes ^ | July 25, 2015 | Gordon Kelly

Posted on 07/26/2015 7:55:23 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

Last week Microsoft MSFT confirmed every Windows 10 update will mandatory and installed automatically. This was met with a hostile reception from Forbes readers with over 100 comments on my news article voicing their concern. And now some of those fears have been realised…

With just four days left before launch, Windows 10’s policy of automatic updates has run into its first major problem and it is causing many PCs to stop working correctly.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: Swordmaker
Only AAPL does this

Nope!

Apple is a marketer at it's heart, and as such it's fortunes rise and fall with any number of factors.

In determining it's value, you do back out the cash.

As to news manipulation as you termed it, I would call it the usual hype surrounding many issues, not just apple. There is nothing illegal or immoral about it, it just is what it is. They missed a analyst estimate combined with a rather dodgy intro of the I watch to which Apple appear more than protective about it for reasons the market could not exactly make sense of.

And that Gold watch really put them into the jewelry category....lol

You add all that together and it did not take a lot to nosedive the stock for a short play. it's done all the time..but as a trader you want to get behind the trade and not in front of it.

Has nothing to do with dishonesty. The market to begin with is essentially a casino. A horse track.....and you bet on the nag, but the weather turns sour and you get a mud track.

101 posted on 07/27/2015 5:49:44 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Swordmaker

BTW.....Something else you really don’t have a handle on.

Valuations are largely not a factor in a traders decision making..it a peripheral issue. Traders look for movements of the SP...(stock price) They watch charts, options activity, and news as well as sentiment.

All that other stuff....cash, profit margins, realestate, debt to equity ratios..etc...are the purview of the investor.

There is a huge difference between a trader and a investor.

I am a trader as is my friend. It damages your ability to be a successful trader if you think like a investor. I have made that mistake multiple times...it’s a common error.


102 posted on 07/27/2015 6:01:34 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat
BTW.....Something else you really don’t have a handle on.

Valuations are largely not a factor in a traders decision making..it a peripheral issue. Traders look for movements of the SP...(stock price) They watch charts, options activity, and news as well as sentiment.

All that other stuff....cash, profit margins, realestate, debt to equity ratios..etc...are the purview of the investor.

There is a huge difference between a trader and a investor.

I am a trader as is my friend. It damages your ability to be a successful trader if you think like a investor. I have made that mistake multiple times...it’s a common error.

I am well aware of the difference. . . I've been a trader. Now I am a long term investor. The point I was making was that the basics of AAPL should not make it as volatile as it is except for the games being played with the news cycles and the popular misconceptions running rampant in the public.

The "lies" being published in the news media is for the benefit of the traders and should be stopped by the SEC. . . because the stories were and are false when they happen. The lies published on Tuesday at the close of market were blatantly so. . . and demonstrably so. . . especially when the same authors used different figures in the morning than in the afternoon for their FUD articles claiming Apple "missed" earnings when it was clear Apple did not miss anything, triggering a sell off that destroyed almost $80 billion in value in less than two hours! Despite Apple turning in a record breaking quarter, a quarter which broke the previous record quarter from a year ago, these liars reported is as "disappointing" and as a miss on earnings! What vile. corrupt, deliberate lies. Just what i've learned to expect from Liberals.

This manipulation has been done with regularity. . . and anyone who looks with an unbiased eye can easily see it being done. Often it starts in social media. . . picked up by these same "journalists" report on these rumor when they should not, giving them far more legs than they deserve. Last week it was purely a creation of the corrupt media liars.

If your friend took advantage of knowing it would happen because of observation and understanding, more power to him. . . unless he knew because he was part of the corruption, then he's as vile as the rest. I certainly hope that is not the case.

103 posted on 07/27/2015 6:48:40 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
The point I was making was that the basics of AAPL should not make it as volatile as it is except for the games being played with the news cycles and the popular misconceptions running rampant in the public

I have to go back to my assertion that you take this too personally, but again, you are a investor.

No, my friend is not a part of any attempted or actual news planting etc...although this practice, intentional or not has been in use for as long I have been in the markets...(long time..70s) he does not do that. What he does is read the tea leaves...especially the options activity.

Like a poker game there are tells. if you can read them, and he does, you can become wealthy, and he is....

I have known him since his second or third trade back in 2009. He was a novice and I helped him. He has since surpassed the master by a factor of ten, but he was well educated and is very intelligent.

104 posted on 07/27/2015 7:03:43 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat

Believe you can burn an ISO image from a download of win 10.

Go to Microsoft site and check all the possible solutions.


105 posted on 07/27/2015 7:06:56 PM PDT by topspinr
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To: Swordmaker
The "lies" being published in the news media is for the benefit of the traders and should be stopped by the SEC. .

I have heard this refrain for decades...Especially in regard to short selling.

The fact is that without shorts, there would be no market.

You MUST have someone on the other side of any trade.

Secondly, these are not lies (in fact), but are opinions issued by people who make their living by issuing opinions..so it follows that you cannot charge someone for a opinion. If you could, we would have a Iranian theocracy or worse.

What is illegal is insider trading, fraud, and other illegal activity..The SEC has their hands full dealing with that. Some of it is actually BS, but the people involved have to pay..

It's not easy sorting through all the fraud...I have been severely burned by the Chinese. Nearly 100k of earned money left my hands due to outright fraud.

106 posted on 07/27/2015 7:13:59 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: topspinr

I hope so...I have done it before..


107 posted on 07/27/2015 7:14:48 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat
Cold, I have no problem with short selling. . . I've done it myself and made some nice profits. It's the collusion of the crooks in the media that I object to. . . and it is blatant set-ups going on here. Someone needs to find how they are being rewarded for their lying.

A couple have been found out, but they were trading themselves and got caught. That is not permitted under the SEC regulations. Something is going on. . . They were drummed out of the business on both ends. Can't trade, can't write about it.

108 posted on 07/27/2015 8:03:33 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Sure,,,,it happens..but it’s hard to move a market on pure BS.

When a legitimate short seller report is published, often times people don’t pay enough attention to it because of the oft published BS opinion journalism.

It’s like the story of the boy who cried wolf.

The task is to know what is real.

It’s fairly easy to determine this. The real story usually has convincing evidence, either in document or video. The opinion pieces have none of this. it’s just someone’s opinion.

If the market moves as a result, it’s only because people agreed with the opinion. But in a real solid report, people often dismiss it. It’s a weird human failure...IMO. I have made that mistake, so I know what it can cost.


109 posted on 07/27/2015 8:26:53 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Swordmaker

BTW, I am on every mailing list the SEC, FDIC, FDA, etc has.

I follow all the crooks and all the federal over-reach cases. There is a lot of both.


110 posted on 07/27/2015 8:29:10 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat
I have to go back to my assertion that you take this too personally, but again, you are a investor.

I take truth and lies personally, Cold. . . and these "anal-cysts" play loose with both. When the same Yahoo Finance writer claims one number for AAPL at 8:30AM PST as the Street number for earnings expectations. . . and then when the market closed that day, as Apple was starting the CC at 2PM PST, claims that the Street number for the earnings was another number over $2 billion higher so he could claim that Apple missed the Street expectations! That's a blatant lie intended to support the headline he wanted and the agenda he was pushing!

The analysts had all put their expectations out there in the preceding week. . . and none were changed in the 48 hours leading up to the CC. The only thing that changed was the actual numbers were released by Apple showing another drop similar to Microsoft's and the numbers showing a record quarter did NOT support the desire of some traders to have a large drop in stock price! THAT had to be manufactured to order, so out came the headlines about "disappointments" when they did not even have time to talk to anyone at all. We're talking split seconds after the release here, Cold, no time for reactions to be polled and certainly no time for those reactions to be collated and written into an article.

These results were pre-determined and the articles were pre-written, just waiting for numbers to be plugged in, regardless of what those numbers were! They did not care what the truth was. Just add something to whatever the real numbers are for the "whisper numbers" and change your Street Numbers, and voilá, you have a miss!

111 posted on 07/27/2015 8:29:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

I can give you something interesting every single day of the week.

Today for example...

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2015/34-75519.pdf


112 posted on 07/27/2015 8:32:54 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat

Yes, you’ll be able to get an .iso which you can save to USB or optical.

Search on clean install Windows 10 or Windows 10 iso or similar terms.


113 posted on 07/27/2015 8:34:07 PM PDT by No.6
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To: Swordmaker
That's a blatant lie intended to support the headline he wanted and the agenda he was pushing!

It was one or two analysts opinions... They published those opinions after the last Q.. So no SEC investigation will be launched on a opinion of a analyst. That's not really what damaged the stock, IMO.. It was Apple's unusual anal handling of the distribution and sales. One thing was that they did their sales directly via internet. This negated the analysts ability to watch in store sales. This in turn created doubt.. Doubt is the enemy of a stock price. I don't follow them....but that's what I am hearing.

114 posted on 07/27/2015 8:39:37 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: No.6

great....thanks...I often find a need for a reinstall==

I do a lot of searching in China...

But since I bought Kaspersky and got away from the freebees..my platform has not been compromised.


115 posted on 07/27/2015 8:48:07 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: No.6

Having said that, my first option is to reinstall. I guess it’s a old habit.


116 posted on 07/27/2015 8:49:35 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Timber Rattler

Windows 7 is perfectly fine for me. I’ll wait awhile before installing 10.

As for automatic updates being mandatory . . .

WHY, OH WHY MUST MICROSOFT CONTROL EVERY ASPECT OF OUR COMPUTER LIVES???


117 posted on 07/27/2015 8:52:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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To: dayglored

Add me, please. I want somebody to complain to if my computer automatically installs 10. Thanks. :-)


118 posted on 07/27/2015 8:55:13 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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To: Cold Heat
It was one or two analysts opinions... They published those opinions after the last Q.. So no SEC investigation will be launched on a opinion of a analyst. That's not really what damaged the stock, IMO.. It was Apple's unusual anal handling of the distribution and sales. One thing was that they did their sales directly via internet. This negated the analysts ability to watch in store sales. This in turn created doubt.. Doubt is the enemy of a stock price. I don't follow them....but that's what I am hearing.

If that was the case, the stock would have been down when everyone was talking about the Apple Watch tanking by 90% in June according to Slice intelligence. No matter that Slice had no experience in doing what they were claiming they could do, were using only US data ignoring the rest of the world where 67% of the Apple Watches were sold, and the fact that Apple had started offering the Watches through their retail store in the last week of June. Apple has actually stated the watch had GREATER sales in June than in the first two months. Instead of the stock going down, AAPL went dropped a bit, about 3%, then recovered and then went UP to 131, before the CC. With the publishing of the lies in the press about missing the earnings, it dropped 9%. There was no doubt about the sales. . . no doubt about the earnings. The Apple Watch sales could easily be estimated from changes in the "other" category within 20% of units sold. . . and Apple's CEO said they out sold the original iPad's sales numbers which were 3.3 million, which was, before the Apple Watch the fastest selling product in history. Those calculated numbers comport with that number. That means the Apple Watch was also a record breaker.

For the first time, the reports claimed the guidance expectations to a remarkable precision. . . $51.130 Billion average expectation of the anal-cysts for next quarter. In every previous report, it's been rounded to the nearest Billon. Not this time. They went three significant digits. WOW! Apple guided $49 to $51 Billion and they claimed that Apple's guidance missed the expectation for the next quarter. To get that, they had to NOT round off. . . so they could add 0.25% over the range. Picky, picky, picky. . . and extremely petty.

119 posted on 07/27/2015 9:06:11 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
> Add me, please. I want somebody to complain to if my computer automatically installs 10. Thanks. :-)

With pleasure!

Good news - Windows 10 is not supposed to install itself automatically.

But either way, you now have somebody to complain to about that or anything else!

120 posted on 07/27/2015 9:28:46 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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