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Report: Tom Brady destroyed phone, suspension to be upheld
MSN ^ | 7/28/2015 | Steve Del Vecchio

Posted on 07/28/2015 9:46:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog

The NFL is going to reject Tom Brady’s appeal and uphold the four-game suspension he is facing for his alleged role in Deflategate, according to one report.

Stephen A. Smith said on ESPN’s “First Take” Tuesday morning that a source told him Roger Goodell will not reduce or overturn Brady’s suspension. Perhaps more shocking, Smith cited a separate source who told him Brady actually destroyed his own personal cell phone rather than just refusing to turn it over.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cheating; deflategate; football; scandal
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To: Psalm 73
Part of a great title and a great movie.

It is strange that he would destroy the phone. You are very optimistic in that scenario. If he crossed the line, the NFL has 31 other teams to think about besides the Pats.

Who is Garopollo?

41 posted on 07/28/2015 12:43:20 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Nude pix of his wife...or someone else.Phone numbers of girlfriends,etc.Messages from his Mom about her sister’s mental illness.Who *knows* what personal stuff might have been on it! He “took the 5th” and was found guilty as a result.The Boston press is saying that he’ll take this to Federal court where,presumably,the discovery process will bring up some interesting tidbits about this case...and matters entirely unrelated to it.


42 posted on 07/28/2015 12:43:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: BatGuano

It doesn’t matter what he’s hiding.

1. There is zero evidence he ordered anybody to do anything that was against NFL rules.

2. There’s evidence the footballs in the AFC Championship Game were NOT deflated (the halftime pressures all checked out as normal).

A pathetic witch hunt, plain and simple.


43 posted on 07/28/2015 12:55:57 PM PDT by astroaddict
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Mr. Entitled goes to Federal Court and makes a bigger entitled jerk out of himself. Enjoy the discovery Tommy cheat.


44 posted on 07/28/2015 1:01:10 PM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Reportedly he destroyed the phone the day before his hearing. That appears to have ticked Goodell off.


45 posted on 07/28/2015 1:35:14 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Stentor
Enjoy the discovery Tommy cheat.

The NFL...with its "special" status under corporate *and* tax law...has far more to lose.

46 posted on 07/28/2015 1:49:13 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Stentor
Enjoy the discovery Tommy cheat.

Several posters have suggested that the NFL *wants* a court to dismiss this.Everyone "wins" in such a scenario.Sounds very plausible to me.

You wouldn't be a Jets...Broncos...Ravens...or Seahawks fan by any chance,would you?

47 posted on 07/28/2015 1:53:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: bigbob

Anyone can find nude pictures of his wife. They’re all over the internet.

She’s just a search engine away.


48 posted on 07/28/2015 1:58:18 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: BatGuano
"Who is Garopollo?"

The QB out of Illinois they used a 2nd-round draft pick on two years ago to push Brady - he's good and served notice that, to paraphrase Brady himself: "I'll be replaced as soon as I start to suck"

49 posted on 07/28/2015 2:20:37 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Anything to get a break from his Brazilian supermodel wife’s constant nagging, I guess ...


50 posted on 07/28/2015 2:21:48 PM PDT by x
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To: Gay State Conservative

I would be a fan of the team they cheated in Super Bowl XXXIX.


51 posted on 07/28/2015 3:55:28 PM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: schaef21
The WaPost has a stake in Hillary because they are totalitarian leftists like her and want to advance the leftist agenda.

What stake do they have in unearthing the stupidity and vapidity of the Wells Report?

I await your brilliant reply.......

52 posted on 07/28/2015 4:23:36 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

***What stake do they have in unearthing the stupidity and vapidity of the Wells Report?***

Bias.

What stake does the NFL have in soiling one of their marquis players and one of their premiere franchises? Is it in their best interest to do so?


53 posted on 07/29/2015 10:19:32 AM PDT by schaef21
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To: schaef21
What a moronic answer: Bias

Bias in what? Where in the world would a leftist paper get a bias to protect Tom Brady? Do they hope that being nice to him will prevent him from voting for or giving to (R) candidates?

As to the NFL doing what they're doing: Stupid. Clearly stupid. A runaway train of nonsense they allowed a few very jealous owners and journalists to propagate. After the nonsense festered, having failed to deal with their lax issues with the thuggishness of their players, now they get to look tough. Stupid. Just stupid.

When you find one shred of evidence that this happened, get back to me. There is. Zero. Evidence. Repeat: Absolutely zero. evidence. File that in the small recesses of your mind, there appear to be lots of them.......

54 posted on 07/29/2015 10:33:22 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

The bias doesn’t have to be on the part of the newspaper... it can be on the part of the columnist. It happens every day in every newspaper in America.

There is plenty of circumstantial evidence for those who don’t mind opening their eyes to see it..... that obviously is not you.

Incidentally..... I am a St. Louis Cardinal fan. Somebody in the Cardinal front office hacked the Houston Astros. They haven’t gotten totally to the bottom of it yet, the investigation is continuing.

Regardless of who it was, or how pervasive or innocuous it was they will be penalized and they will deserve it.

Please note how I answered you without calling you a moron or referring to the “small recesses of your mind”.

Namecalling is the last refuge of a man with no confidence in his argument. You are no better than those on the left who do the same thing.


55 posted on 07/29/2015 11:24:32 AM PDT by schaef21
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To: schaef21
Sorry, there is almost zero circumstantial evidence here either, and I doubt you can point to any, or that you're even interested in evidence at all.

That's because there is none, and it's obviously not what you're interested in.

I held back on insults daring you to provide evidence, when you didn't (because you can't, because there is none) I did succumb to calling you what you appear to be. It had no bearing on the strength of my points, but it felt good saying the obvious.

Sorry about that, but that doesn't help your lack of argument, nor diminish my very important argument that there is no evidence. None. Quite the contrary, the evidence is hugely in his favor. But you're not interested in evidence.

56 posted on 07/29/2015 11:53:46 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

We’ve beat this horse to death.

1. A ballboy with the nickname “The Deflator”
2. Brady’s destroyed cell phone.
3. The balls were under the prescribed weight (and there are arguments on both sides about the “science”... you have chosen to disregard those you disagree with). BTW... we see the same thing going on in the Global Warming debate, don’t we.
4. The study done on the fumble rate being astronomically out of the norm for the Pats starting the year that teams were allowed to supply their own balls.

These are all bits of circumstantial evidence (just off the top of my head) and without going back to reread the Wells Report, which I did... admittedly in part, not the whole, when it first came out.

You don’t want to recognize it.... I get it. You’re a big Pats fan and you choose to dismiss all of this. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist or that it is not evidence.

I would say that you are the one not interested in evidence, not me.

I believe we’ve exhausted this subject. Take some more shots at me if you’d like, I’m done.


57 posted on 07/29/2015 12:47:51 PM PDT by schaef21
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To: schaef21
I'm actually a Lions fan (long suffering).

1. One text using that nickname, two years ago. No context, just another equipment guy hassling him like locker room humor. Yep, solid circumstantial evidence....*rolls eyes*

2. The league used that term, not Brady. It was used purposefully to bolster their non case to morons who want to believe he did something without any evidence to back it up. It sounds so inflammatory, sort of like Hillary, right? The NFL acknowledges they knew he did that on a regular basis. On page 11 or something like that according to Rush today. Lots of players and famous people do that on a regular basis. It's common and defensive and for good reason.

3. The extent of the deflation of the balls has always been exagerrated, there were never any close to two pounds under. The Colts had four balls measured, they too were under. There were two gauges used, and they measured different from one another, and nothing was written down. Ponder that for a while and look in the mirror.

4. I've watched this game a long time, and played it, if you're going to say with a straight face that an underinflated football leads to that many less fumbles, I might have to turn to derision again.

5. Once again, if he was getting so much out of this by purposefully deflating balls for ten years, how does he suddenly get faced with inflated balls and play better in the second half? Lots better. How does he come out and torch the best defense in the league in the past five years in the SuperBowl if this is all true? Did the Patriots running backs suddenly fumble these two games? Oops, no fumbles. Imagine that.... Occam's razor sir, look it up.

58 posted on 07/29/2015 2:41:47 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
Why did Brady destroy he phone?

Not only that: Brady then claimed that he does that frequently, and then gave the NFL some old phones (which he hadn't destroyed, paradoxically.)

Brady looks like an evidence-hiding fool in this instance, who clearly tried to obstruct the investigation.

Furthermore, we all know that the Patriots now have a well-documented history of, shall we say, "bending the rules"?

What it all adds up to is unrepentant "conduct detrimental to the integrity of game".

I'm glad the NFL isn't rolling over for the Patriots. Go ahead and let Brady get an injuction on his game suspensions. That way, they'll occur later in the season, when it will really matter.

Brady clearly tried to obstruct the investigation by destroying evidence on the very day he was supposed to surrender the phone, and it's no wonder that the hard evidence is rather thin.

Also, this investigation is not a criminal investigation, and does not by any means require that standard of proof. I would think that the standard of proof would more likely resemble that which occurs in a civil proceeding, which is a preponderance of evidence, not "beyond a reasonable doubt".

59 posted on 07/29/2015 2:50:06 PM PDT by sargon
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To: sargon
Why? I can think of tons of reasons why starting by being married to one of the world's hottest women. Why? Really?

It's you who wants to believe this BS, you who can't answer how he gained an advantage with all this, can't even hint at how it's possible he played so well without his so called advantage.

The Patriots bent the rules during spy gate, fully acknowledged. For you to bring this to "a well documented history" says one thing: You simply hate them and WANT to believe the worst. Nothing will dissuade you from your hatred for them, not evidence, nor lack of evidence. You just KNOW they're guilty, because spy gate.

They got the phones of the ball guys. Where's the evidence? There. Is. None.

Yet you persist in your silly and petty belief.

60 posted on 07/29/2015 3:07:57 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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