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Spoiler Alert: People With No Firearms Training Get Killed In Self-Defense Simulator
Townhall.com ^ | August 2, 2015 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 08/02/2015 10:38:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: blackdog

LOL. my thoughts exactly. A shotgun solves many problems. In one shotgun, I load two 6-shot shells, followed by two 4-shot shells, followed by a coupled buck-and-ball rounds, and then more 4-shot shells.


81 posted on 08/02/2015 7:50:02 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Recompennation

“Two world wars were won by american boys most all of whom had zero experience...”

They got 96 hours of weapons training and many had hunting experience before joining.


82 posted on 08/02/2015 8:47:31 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: blackdog

“Anything in those 90 degrees is getting peppered from floor to ceiling at 15 feet. “

Have you ever checked your pattern???


83 posted on 08/02/2015 8:55:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Kaslin; All
Black female reporter goes through police shooting simulation and gets a dose of reality.

Link shows what she went through.

Here

84 posted on 08/02/2015 8:56:03 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: TexasGator
Answer me this: approx how many people are killed or injured in a failed self-defense use of a firearm, because of inadequate training? How many innocent people are killed or wounded by a lawful self-defense shooter, because of his lack of training?

i'm not talking hypotheticals here, and neither are leftists, when they will seek to impose all kinds of prior restraint on the God-given right of self-defense.

85 posted on 08/02/2015 9:31:37 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: TexasGator

ammo first. training is good too; but I’m agin any
dot gov mandated training.


86 posted on 08/03/2015 2:51:20 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: TexasGator

ammo first. training is good too; but I’m agin any
dot gov mandated training.


87 posted on 08/03/2015 2:51:21 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

you’re reading my mind


88 posted on 08/03/2015 2:51:59 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: TexasGator

dear gator,

I DO know about the videos for sale, and the YouTube clips put out by Thunder Ranch owner Clint Smith, for revolvers and pistols, and ... long arms, too.

I have the revolver one, and found his YT pistol videos to be quite informing.

‘Armed Response’ has a few videos on YT, and are interesting.


89 posted on 08/03/2015 4:49:32 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Kaslin

SC now allows CC without the former requirement of classes. Loading a weapon, drawing your weapon, hitting the target, weapon safety....

The class Husband and I took was heavy on the laws for this state. Unfortunately, that’s not required, now. There is a fine line between self-defense and murder.


90 posted on 08/03/2015 4:57:58 AM PDT by submarinerswife
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dear gator,

re;
“Do you NOT believe that a person should receive training on the use of a gun?”

NO. Yet when folks, you and me included, use the word ‘training’, SOMETIMES folks believe that others hearing the word, are on the same page, when they are not.

There are some folks, who by their family upbringing, have some aforeknowledge of gun handling.

There are some other folks, that might have participated in Junior NRA, like me.

There are some folks, who by volunteer or by the draft, have spent time in the military, with a firearm strapped to them in some fashion, in a theater of operation, like me.

And, there are some folks, who buy a firearm, for whatever reason fits their psyche, and figures that is enough.

THOSE are the folks that need to be shown ‘something more than what they might know’, first.

I grant that folks are smart enough to figure some things out, or nowadays, click a few buttons, and find out what the minor malfunction is, and how to address it. However, as when we went to junior or high school, and had a class of theory and the accompanying lab class, so it is with firearms.

Michael DeBethencourt has very good, straight forward, and informative YT videos about snubnose revolvers, which with the right tools, you CAN follow and replay, and learn while looking into the computer screen.

BTW, In the Junior NRA, I learned to shoot the Remington XB40 rifle, and on a 1911 frame chambered for .38 Super. In the Air Force, I learned about the M16 rifle, and the Smith and Wesson Model 15 Combat Masterpiece revolver, which I had strapped on in SouthEast Asia.

As with any ‘DIY’, there is always another trick somebody can figure out, and share with the world.


91 posted on 08/03/2015 5:07:16 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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dear trailerpark,

Remember the first rule of firearms?
‘All firearms are loaded.’

Once again, ‘state-mandated’ anything, will prove that ‘subject matter experts’ seldom are. Also, ‘state-mandated’ will walk all over the NRA trainers, and supply a lackadaisical, no good for nothing, state sucking tax money, cousin or nephew or family sumbitch employee, a monkey-could-do-better-job, and the public, another loss of freedom at the hands of the legislature, with the words ‘shall attend’.

I leave it as the responsibility of the firearms owner, to decide which kind of training, and at what level, for their particular chosen environment of operation.


92 posted on 08/03/2015 5:17:41 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith
sir, perfectly stated.

and when state budget crisis time hits, which department's services will be cut? And what, you can't travel across the state to the only town without an airport and spend Tues-Sat at the only training session this quarter?

Leftists aren't interested in making self-defense firearm use safer. They want to prevent it. Agreeing with leftists on anything is tantamount to surrender.

93 posted on 08/03/2015 5:47:05 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: TexasGator
It's a special load meant to spread everywhere. I tested them in my old barn against some straw bales. It does what it claims. Each small shot in the shell is squashed like a hockey puck. They are not round. Not very lethal beyond ten feet for sure. On the plus side however it will stop anyone coming at you. The consideration of aiming is not important. The danger of rounds going through walls and hitting family memebers in bedrooms isn't a problem either.

The perfect indoors family defense weapon round.

94 posted on 08/03/2015 6:26:21 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: TexasGator

I said:
“Two world wars were won by american boys most all of whom had zero experience...”

You said:
They got 96 hours of weapons training and many had hunting experience before joining.
I say:
Resolution overcomes reticence


95 posted on 08/03/2015 4:11:29 PM PDT by Recompennation
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Here is a good one!

Robber loses gun to victim who then loses gun after turning gun on robber.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/2014/12/04/fremont-armed-robber-loses-gun-to-victim-in-flubbed-mugging/


96 posted on 08/03/2015 4:55:24 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
The victim was initially unarmed. Not seeing this as a training issue.

Now, if you meant the perp...yeah, he could use some more "Robbery with a Handgun 101."

97 posted on 08/03/2015 8:05:02 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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