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Carly Fiorina as a boss: The disappointing truth
Fortune ^ | 8/14/15 | Jeffrey Sonnenfeld

Posted on 08/16/2015 11:14:00 AM PDT by jimbo123

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To: hoosiermama
For me it was attacking Trump for his relationshio with Clinton when she has been part of Clinton Foundation personnel for years.

Is this what you're referring to? If so, her "part" was participating in a panel discussion, and her contributions were "The commitments to the Clinton Foundation come from the The National Center for Entrepreneurship and Innovation, which has agreed to put $3.7 million toward creating “an exhibition space near the National Mall in Washington, DC to celebrate entrepreneurship and innovation in America” and “programs to reach 50,000 youth with in-person experiences that foster interest in entrepreneurship,” and Good 360, which partnered with Hilton Worldwide in “finding alternative ways to recycle, donate, or reuse waste instead of sending it to the landfill” for a $2 million commitment."

21 posted on 08/16/2015 12:12:18 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

She was never on my radar screen. I’ve never thought much of her at all. The after debate comment just sealed the deal further for me.


22 posted on 08/16/2015 12:27:51 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: jimbo123

Interesting thread.

Fiorina is an affirmative action failure. A woman with a liberal arts degree from Stahn-Ford who keeps failing upward, which is the only way you can go in a company if you’re a she, not a he.

H-P used to have a reputation that was bullet proof, and the equipment was always the best - just a matter of whether you wanted to pay for it.

They took only the top 2% or so of Engineering school grads. You couldn’t even get an interview if you weren’t in that cohort.

She took the Instrument part of the business and stripped it of its brand name which was the most valuable in the world. “Agilent” doesn’t really hold much heft against “National Instruments”, but H-P did. You knew who the heavy weight was.

She destroyed that and pasted the H-P name on a crapware mass produced clone. There might be some marketing cleverness to that but it took a long time to live down the Compaq name. H-P could have just built their own right from the start, there was no heavy engineering to do. They had a lot of make up work on bringing the Compaq junk up to standards. The originals were a just a bit beyond the Gateway trash.

So while she may be well spoken, she had no business being where she was.

As an Engineer in the Valley I know a fair number of H-P alumni. Not one has a good word for her and all of them are some of the best electron chasers I ever met.

Maybe she’s got a sharp tongue. Don’t mean nuffin’ if ya don’t understand whatcha got, how to sell it, and especially how to develop it.


23 posted on 08/16/2015 1:02:41 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

We have a close friend who worked under her. She is not what she appears. He is a very gracious guy, and not one to criticize, but he would NOT vote for her.


24 posted on 08/16/2015 2:45:21 PM PDT by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

1999 to 2005 was a very tough time to be in high tech. A lot of companies went out of business. H-P didn’t.

Also wasn’t there a couple of airplanes in 2001 that pretty much trashed the economy over that period?
I remember it well just in the hotel business. We immediately lost 60% of our business. Dot.com bubble burst didn’t help either.


25 posted on 08/16/2015 2:51:29 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (The larger the government, the smaller the people)
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To: Shery

My guess is considering what I know is she overstates her personal networking accomplishments. Her so called close friendships with foreign leaders. Those never registered to me to be quite on the level.


26 posted on 08/16/2015 4:21:28 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Calvin Locke

She destroyed Lucent and damn near destroyed HP.


27 posted on 08/16/2015 4:40:40 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: Perdogg; jimbo123; ClearCase_guy; hoosiermama; BuffaloJack; q_an_a; Gunslingr3; Calvin Locke; ...
Before posting and relying completely on the selected "facts" presented in selected hit-and-run Fortune opinion articles (I am sure you can find at least a few about The Donald there as well), maybe people should get better acquainted with real facts of her tenures at Lucent and HP:

1. "hired her with no CEO experience"

She was the President of and running a very successful $19B division (that's larger than many S&P 500 companies) of Lucent at the time HP begged her to turn around an aging, drifting company with legacy businesses and dozens of mostly independently run divisions whose products were being commoditized and margins shrinking, with several competitors gaining market share. Without major restructuring and change of direction, HP was going the way of Kodak, Polaroid and Xerox. Far from "destroying" HP, Fiorina's actions saved it.

2. Yes, there were thousands of layoffs - partially because of merger with Compaq, partially because of consolidations of divisions and eliminating of internal redundancies and dealing with the aftermaths of the "dotcom" bust and 9/11, just like there were in most other companies, for those who still remember.

At last count, there are more than 300,000 employees at HP today, with the revenue per employee of about $355K and profit per employee of about $15K - does that mean company is successful, unsuccessful, or these numbers, in isolation, are meaningless?

Hint: don't ask Fortune to give you the answer. But note that the price of HPQ stock is at about the same level that was 10 years ago, when Fiorina was "fired" by the dysfunctional board.

BTW, while the stock coasted up for a while as a result of her restructuring, both CEOs who followed Fiorina were also fired by the dysfunctional board — Mark Hurd "for cause" and Leo Apotheker who lasted barely 1 year on the job and really wrecked the company with mindless acquisition of Autonomy for $11B which had to be entirely written off, and cutting several promising product research projects. Oh, and two members of the dysfunctional board have resigned a year after firing Fiorina because they were implicated in a massive scandal of leaking confidential company information.

3. Fortune article omits and/or distorts financial performance of Lucent and HP by selective irrelevant comparisons. You can find more, better facts in this post: Carly Fiorina as a boss: The disappointing truth - FR, post #26, 2015 August 15 Fortune

28 posted on 08/16/2015 7:35:53 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

I am not relying on personal experience from friends at both places. I have not read the article you linked


29 posted on 08/16/2015 8:59:21 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: CutePuppy

great post. thanks


30 posted on 08/17/2015 6:26:09 PM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justiceHis true reco)
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