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Whistleblower claims feds hiding vaccine-autism link [Isaiah 24]
World Net Daily ^ | 8/16/2015 | Staff

Posted on 08/17/2015 1:27:45 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: demshateGod

So ignoring science and research that says MMRS is not causing any of the illnesses is what you’re choosing to do?

Hope that works out for you.

Meanwhile in the real world I pray that people are healed of these illnesses and that the real causes are found.

Yeesh.


41 posted on 08/17/2015 3:13:41 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Walker/Cruz Cruz/Walker - I don't care which way, they're the only two conservatives we have.)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood
As if "scientists" never lie or tailor studies or results to achieve a desired outcome?

AGW comes to mind. Surely, no reputable scientist or researcher ever enters any study or experiment with a preconceived notion.

Indeed!

42 posted on 08/17/2015 3:14:09 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood

I won’t deny the studies. My argument from the beginning is freedom. Freedom to make informed decisions for our children. Only a tyrannical government would deny that fundamental right.


43 posted on 08/17/2015 3:14:11 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood

Was last year the hottest year on record?


44 posted on 08/17/2015 3:16:26 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Thumper1960

I agree! The Russians exposed that all AGW data is falsified. Yet the lie goes on...


45 posted on 08/17/2015 3:17:17 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

True. However the decision to not vaccinate should be a decision to home school as more than two children without vaccines would be kind of bad if you think about it.


46 posted on 08/17/2015 3:18:01 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Walker/Cruz Cruz/Walker - I don't care which way, they're the only two conservatives we have.)
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To: demshateGod

Good point! I thought that the scientific method relied on observation. To claim that this is “settled science” is disingenuous. People ARE observing autism links.


47 posted on 08/17/2015 3:21:30 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
I don't need the Russkies to tell me that scientists sometimes become propagandists. Plenty of respected meteorologists disagree with the AGW bullcrap. Those pushing the AGW line would like to incarcerate those who question them. How hard is it to believe that vaccination zealots wouldn't want to do the same.....or take children from parents who refuse to submit to certain vaccination protocols.

Oh, right.....they have already done so.

48 posted on 08/17/2015 3:23:22 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Thumper1960

That’s a leap. You following rules for radicals?

Concerned people in medical fields have spent a lot of time, money and effort looking into these claims about MMRs and continuously found those claims false.

But never mind that, I guess people like spending a lot of money, time and effort while it’s their life dream to research just to come up with lies and harm people? Yeah..yeah that’s sound reasoning right Thumper? Right?

No, hardly, in fact it’s opposite of sound reasoning.


49 posted on 08/17/2015 3:25:12 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Walker/Cruz Cruz/Walker - I don't care which way, they're the only two conservatives we have.)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood

That is what we have done, however what about families who cannot afford to home school? They risk arrest, or having their children forcefully immunized or taken from parents in California...where vaccinations are no longer optional.


50 posted on 08/17/2015 3:25:59 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood
I highly suggest you read the first couple chapters of “The Structures of Scientific Revolution.” It make things clearer than I can. You don't ignore science. You put it in context. What is the context of these studies? I can tell you now that researchers are NOT doing their thing in a vacuum. Independent or not, they're working within a powerful paradigm.
51 posted on 08/17/2015 3:26:09 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Bill Gates is a giant D-BAG.

On the other hand, this LINUX MINT computer I’m using now, is frigging awesome! Best OS I have ever used.

(currently own winXP, 7, 8.1, OSX and Linux)


52 posted on 08/17/2015 3:26:21 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale FL (zombie land). TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Scientists through scientific methods look to determine things.

A theory was that MMR’s were a link.

They studied. A lot studied and found no link, therefore it is a safe determination that after many years, they have made a determination.

Now they can research other possible sources, or they can continue to chase the false claims that lost a guy his license to work in medicine?


53 posted on 08/17/2015 3:28:27 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Walker/Cruz Cruz/Walker - I don't care which way, they're the only two conservatives we have.)
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To: Thumper1960

I agree. I was just bringing up the East Anglia Hacking Incident.


54 posted on 08/17/2015 3:30:02 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood

Was last year the hottest year on record, yes or no?


55 posted on 08/17/2015 3:31:35 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Yeah that kind of government over reach is terrible.


56 posted on 08/17/2015 3:32:04 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Walker/Cruz Cruz/Walker - I don't care which way, they're the only two conservatives we have.)
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To: Black Agnes

Temp recording is unreliable. However we are still coming out of the little ice age and supposedly we’ll be rolling into another ice age, so what if they make those claims?

There’s a theory that carbon dioxide destroyed Venus and it was once inhabited. A laugh right?

Anyways, not an on topic question.


57 posted on 08/17/2015 3:37:43 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Walker/Cruz Cruz/Walker - I don't care which way, they're the only two conservatives we have.)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood

Our forefathers survived through faith and prayer to Jesus Christ, our great physician. The same government that is funding the harvesting and dismembering babies for sale, is funding vaccinations. The people in high places want to cull the world’s population. To him who has faith, get out of this wicked system now before your children, or grandchildren are affected.


58 posted on 08/17/2015 3:38:49 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood

Did they lose the piece cd telling on the other doctors?


59 posted on 08/17/2015 3:40:34 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood

“Anyways, not an on topic question.”

It’s absolutely an on topic question.

Your belief that scientists don’t manipulate their findings to meet a particular goal is laughable. The temp data manipulation and the CAGW religion is no different in many other areas of science sadly.

If you knew you might ‘lose your license’ would YOU find that the MMR was linked with autism either?

LOL. Only if you were stupid and had a career death wish.


60 posted on 08/17/2015 3:48:34 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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