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Trump: I don't think children born to illegal parents have citizenship
Hot Air ^ | 8/19/2015 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 08/20/2015 12:01:48 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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There is no provision in the Constitution that offers birthright citizenship if the parents are illegals. If the parents were “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” they would have the right to vote automatically upon illegally crossing the border. The warped interpretation of birthright citizenship began with a footnote by liberal Justice William Brennan in the 1982 Plyler v. Doe case. This changed the interpretation of the 14th Amendment that was established by the 1898 case United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

In Wong Kim Ark, the Court acknowledged that Senator Lyman Trumball—one of Congress’s leaders for passing the Fourteenth Amendment—acknowledged that the Fourteenth Amendment’s Citizenship Clause would apply to children born only to parents who were “not subject to any foreign power”—meaning not citizens of a foreign country. Yet the Court refused to abide by that meaning of Trumball’s words—and similar speeches by other members of Congress—and instead held that because Wong’s parents were here legally and permanently, their son should be deemed a citizen.

In regards to Plyler v. Doe, the court denied, in a 5-4 decision, the citizenship to the children of legal immigrants. Because Justice Brennan slipped in a dissenting footnote, does not make Plyler v. Doe invalid.

It does not take a brain surgeon to understand the validity of Mark Livin’s argument. It only requires the ability to educate yourself.


81 posted on 08/21/2015 11:36:10 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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So you think that some child who had no choice to come here and has went to Kindergarten and middle school and high school should just be tossed out because YOU want it?

It's because that's the law—and not just in this country, but in every other country. It's a good law. There's no birthright citizenship anywhere in the world, because it's unworkable. If my daddy steals a car and gives it to me, that doesn't give me a right to it, even if I didn't know it was stolen, and even if I've gotten used to it and take wonderful care of it. It's stolen property. I may be innocent, but that doesn't mean I can keep it. I don't own it.

You call it "tossed out," as if there's something wrong with these folks' home country. (Doesn't Jesus love the folks in that country too?) Sometimes your daddy gets transferred. Sometimes it's to another country. Look at it this way: If they have a house and sell it, they'll be rich folks just about anywhere south of the border.

The reason sentimentality is only for liberals is that it leads to bad consequences—like illegal alien gangs, out-of-work American kids, vote fraud, and Press 2 for English. As the lawyers say, "Hard cases make bad law." It's not worth the destruction of America just to keep poor little Dora the Explorer in second grade.

82 posted on 08/21/2015 3:56:28 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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The reason illegals can be deported is because they ARE “subject to the jurisdiction” of our immigration laws.

Look at this way; Let's say a pregnant woman breaks into your home. While inside, she goes into labor and has her child. Because the child was born inside your home, within your jurisdiction, that child is now a full-fledged member of your family with all that entails.

Insane, isn't?

83 posted on 08/21/2015 6:55:48 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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