Posted on 08/22/2015 11:19:47 AM PDT by xzins
Presidential candidate Donald Trump hosted an event last night in Alabama that saw between 18,000 and 20,000-plus people in attendance.
Roll tide, apparently.
During his speech, “the Donald” mentioned how he is a big fan of Oreo cookies, but will refuse to ever eat them again since Nabisco plans on moving to Mexico.
From The Blaze:
“You know, Mexico is the new China,” Trump told the crowd, referencing the recent decision by Nabisco to move its factories there.
“I love Oreos. I’ll never eat them again. Okay? I’ll never eat them again,” Trump said. “No, Nabisco closes the plant, they just announced a couple of days ago, in Chicago and they are moving the plant to Mexico. Now, why?”
“I don’t blame China. I respect them,” Trump said. “I’m not angry at them. I’m angry at our leaders for being so stupid. I’m not angry at China.”
Oreos — more specifically, Nabisco — caused the ire of the billionaire presidential contender after the company announced its decision not to invest the $130 million for a factory upgrade and will move production across the county’s southern border into Mexico. Nabisco also recently shut down its Philadelphia factory in an effort to expand factories in Virginia and New Jersey, although union members believe their jobs will eventually be outsourced to Mexico as well.
You know things are bad when American workers fear losing their jobs to outsourcing in order for the company to employ cheap laborers.
He’s not wrong about China. What the communist nation is doing is capitalizing on the weakness of current American leaders. They’re taking advantage of a flaw in our highly liberal system that disincentivizes making money.
What would be great about a Trump presidency is that he will not kowtow to any foreign land, and will always put the American people first. There won’t be an Obama-like Middle East apology tour under Trump, that’s for certain.
If we had a president who would call out those companies shutting down US plants and moving to cheap labor nations, and who might even suggest not buying those companies products, the results might be amazing. I'd love to see it happen.
textiles and furniture are two different animals.
furniture was done in by air quality rules that required finishes that were not acceptable to the buying public
textile manufacturing was just not competitive. recall if you will it happened twice before. textile manufacturing moved to New England and then later down south in attempt to be competitive
On a more somber note... a Conservative “black” in Massachusetts is often forgotten in his bid for higher office, may I take this opportunity to bring his name up?
(why, thank you, I will)
Edward W. Brooke
Unions had their day and now it is quickly coming to an end, especially in the public sector where as people realize that THEY the taxpayer are funding these sweet heart contracts between the Elected Libs and the Unions, they are forcing changes ala Walker in WI.
As for the private sector I have no problems there since competition in the marketplace quickly takes care of companies who stupidly sign overly generous contracts which can only be paid by steep price increases on their products and services.
In any case I thing withi 10-15 yrs Unions will be history and every State save a very, very few will be right to work.
You understand he's only talked about those in the context of punitive measures, right?
He's not talking about protectionism so far as I can tell.
Messico pulled the same thing years and years ago when they nationalized the US oil companies in Messico.
(they produce a good bit of oil - FYI)
People from south of the Rio are just plain “slow”.
Ever seen Nobel prize winner for science or medicine (etc) from that neck of the woods??? A space program???
Go out of business? No, I did not say that. Companies build and operate factories to make profits. When the government taxes too much, or imposes other ‘costs’ that are too onerous, those profit margins shrink and can disappear altogether. Responsible management will then assess the options for keeping the business alive ... and obviously getting out from under a high tax that’s hurting the bottom-line is a choice many firms make these days.
Trump (especially since he is a businessman) could jump on this issue of how WashingtonDC over-taxes and over-regulates many American businesses — to the point where they (and others) slow up any new investments and hiring (and sometimes, yes, move away). With nearly 100 million Americans out of work these days, Trump could mount a Jobs for Americans campaign (which could also include mention of his views on illegal immigration). He could go a long ways politically riding this horsie....just saying.
Ok they could have moved to one of the 27 R-T-W states, so I don’t ant to hear it.
Well, Donald, because Democrats have made Illinois a terrible place to do business. Cook County Democrats have doubled down on making the county a terrible place to do business. Worse, Chicago has doubled down on that in making the city a terrible place to do business.
He won't name the disease, so how can he know the cure? He's so up front and open when going after the victims, but too politically correct to call Democrat policies the problem. The perps get a pass from Trump (D-NY). Not impressed.
You wear your economic ignorance on your sleeve.
I suppose you know that Mondalez, the parent company, has lobbied the government to allow their cookies to be bought with food stamps, that they spent about a million lobbying last year in the US alone?
There are exceptions and manufacturers who are successfully bucking the tide. Ashley Furniture is expanding here in NC, manufactured domestically. Maybe they’re able to make it work due to also being retailers?
Is the best way for Disney to increase profits for it to lower it’s admission price to $1 and any food item to $1?
Or are they the best amusement park in the world, so people will pack it no matter what?
Count me in Mr. Trump.
There are some satisfactory alternatives to the Oreo. Even some ‘store brands’ are decent (although some are definitely not!).
Cut up Macy’s credit card, check (I’m also short Macy’s stock at 65). No more Oreo’s, check. Dump FOX news, check (I don’t miss it either).
you mean >> Edward W. Brooke, (O) Mass...../s
Furniture outsoucing started way before the EPA existed.
Textile WAS competitive before the rest of the world ate our lunch with “free trade” that means they charge tariffs, but the US doesn’t. Labor costs were way down due to automation before the industry collapsed here. Those very new machines were all boxed up and sent to .... China!
Funny how the price of clothes didn’t go down either.
Did Hershey move some of its production lines to a plant in Mexico? Yes. But contrary to some reports and even after getting into a heated debate with my brother who claimed that Hershey no longer makes ANY candy in the US or in PA and moved ALL their production from PA to Mexico, that is simply not true. Yes they shut down and tore down part of old original plant but it was seriously outdated and its architecture would not allow the sort of automation and mechanization equipment necessary to stay competitive. The newly built West Hershey plant at an investment of $30 mil did. And while jobs were lost in the closure of the old plant and the opening of the new West Hershey plant, they were not lost to moving jobs to the plant in Mexico but to automation.
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/11/hershey_chocolate_factory_2.html
BTW – about the link you posted? Peoples World?
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This article contains a lot of information about US firms moving plants to cheap labor nations.
You really need to vette your sources before posting. JMO. I somehow think that posting to a web publication that proudly proclaims to be a direct descendant of the Daily Worker and who’s stated goal is to popularize the ideas of Marxism and enjoys a special relationship with the Communist Party USA would be the sort of site I would link to in FR.
There are two major costs involved in Oreos, sugar (the product’s main ingredient) and labor. You mentioned Right to Work states, ok. I cited the sugar tariff problem.
For some quick insight into that, this article is as good a place to start as any:
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