Surrendering a Birthright (The Author shows his ignorance)

Townhall.com ^ | August 23, 2015 | Steve Chapman

[Olog-hai]

Can’t “surrender” what you don’t have to begin with. False definitions of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” are beyond merely pernicious.

[P-Marlowe]

Republican presidential candidates often invoke Jesus, but lately they sound more like Jehovah.

Um... Jesus IS Jehovah.

[Sequoyah101]

Stopped reading after the third paragraph.

Townhall, National Review etc. have become unreliable... that is being generous. Many times they are printing what are just outright damnable lies. This is one of them.

This is just another bleeding heart...if you make the excuse for the children you may as well go out in all the world, gather them up and bring them here until we are all broke and destitute.

[ridesthemiles]

The 14th Amendment was written during the times of the Civil War & the freeing of the slaves.

It was intended to make SLAVES & THEIR CHILDREN American citizens.

It was NEVER meant to encourage pregnant illegal women to come over the border during their labor & drop their child on American soil.

This has been wrong for a number of years & it has to stop.

[Kaslin]

Did you miss my addition to the title? (The author shows his ignorance)

[Olog-hai]

Also noticed the citation by the author of the Migration Policy Institute. One of the founders thereof, Kathleen Newland, is a graduate of Princeton’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, and is a “veteran” of several divisions of the endemically-communistic UN.

[Mr Ramsbotham]

In the first place, it would consign many people born, raised and educated here to inferior status, forever.

I don't think so, because the Constitution also prohibits the ex post facto application of laws. At least that's what logic and a clear reading of the Constitution tells me. Heaven knows, logic and clear reading have had little to do with it the past forty years or so.

[Texas Eagle]

Under established law, a child born here is a U.S. citizen, even if the parents are present without permission. That rule derives from the Fourteenth Amendment, which grants citizenship to "all persons born or naturalized in the United States."

Ah, but you conveeeeeeeniently left out the next phrase in that clause (or is it the other way around?): "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

Are you saying the child is subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. from the moment its born? What happens if the parents decide to take it back home? Is the child not a citizen of its parents' country?

[Sequoyah101]

No, I did not miss it. I was just chiming in.

The dishonesty is rampant. Most of it is aimed at Trump.... then there is hitlery.

I hate lies and liars in any form. Really don’t care who is telling the lie or whom it is about... lies are lies and I hate them and the liar.

[Regulator]

Under established law, a child born here is a U.S. citizen, even if the parents are present without permission

An outright lie. There is NO such established law.

[Vendome]

Invoke The Bible to shame us?

Come through the front door, like everyone else

[Regulator]

In the first place, it would consign many people born, raised and educated here to inferior status, forever

BUNK. They would be nationals of their parents home country. They can easily move there - which they SHOULD - and enjoy whatever rights of citizens of that country have.

[Olog-hai]

As for Chapman, he spreads himself around quite a bit. He is a Chicago liberal who infests all of the RINO mouthpieces.

[BobL]

“Many reproduce, because that is what human beings tend to do, especially if they are young and fertile, as this group tends to be.”

Oh. So you look at Latina’s as “fertile”. Pretty damn RACIST of the author.

[Kaslin]

That is correct, and it seems that even so called constitutional lawyers are not getting it

[Texas Eagle]

Using Steve Chapman's logic, we'd have to shut down all the prisons and we'd never be able to arrest anyone.

After all, doesn't the 5th Amendment say, "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime"?

But, wait, it goes on: "unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury"

Ohhhhhhhh. That's different.

When you start reading the entirety of those pesky Amendments, they start taking on totally different meanings.

Here's your homework assignment, Steve. Read the whole damn Amendment.

[Kaslin]

A child is born to legal immigrants who have a Green Card and are permanent residents is a natural born US Citizen

[Kaslin]

Well that explains it, doesn’t it?

[Kaslin]

They all omit that conveniently.