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Donald Trump: Mean-Spirited GOP Won’t Win Elections (2012)
NewsMax ^ | Monday, 26 Nov 2012 01:07 PM | Ronald Kessler

Posted on 08/27/2015 8:43:52 AM PDT by justlittleoleme

The Republican Party will continue to lose presidential elections if it comes across as mean-spirited and unwelcoming toward people of color, Donald Trump tells Newsmax.

Whether intended or not, comments and policies of Mitt Romney and other Republican candidates during this election were seen by Hispanics and Asians as hostile to them, Trump says.

“Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,” the billionaire developer says.

“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.”

Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says.

“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; dumptrump; president; trump
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To: justlittleoleme

He’s a fraud. He’s not only not consistent; he’s purposely misrepresented his past positions and flipped and flopped on this and other issues.


21 posted on 08/27/2015 9:09:06 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: justlittleoleme

Haven’t heard even one mean spirited remark. In fact he has been remarkably laid back.


22 posted on 08/27/2015 9:11:08 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: erod
It doesn’t matter he said this in 2012,

Just remember, every Republican candidate campaigns like a conservative during primaries. Then, they turn to the middle.

23 posted on 08/27/2015 9:12:02 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:21)
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To: nhwingut
It's because the same idiots continue to post an article from 2012.

Oh no. We have to listen again to these words that came out of Trumps mouth? How dare they. I have never seen anything like this on FR. Going back to the past to find out what someone's position was. What is this world coming to?

24 posted on 08/27/2015 9:12:13 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Longbow1969
Trump is just making it up as he goes along. His positions change continually

Bingo! The only reason he is running as Republican is because he knows there is better chance after 8 years of a Dem President. Once he decided he would run as Republican he know the issue of immigration would fire up the base. That's all he's doing and a lot of people are buying it. When the debate was against Amnesty / Comprehensive immigration reform he sided with the left.
25 posted on 08/27/2015 9:12:14 AM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: justlittleoleme
"I just don't trust him."

Ditto! Trump is a populist huckster and that appeals top some folks. LOL

26 posted on 08/27/2015 9:15:09 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: elhombrelibre; Starstruck

There’s still a long way to go before the first ballot is even cast; time to question all the candidates on all their positions.


27 posted on 08/27/2015 9:23:30 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: justlittleoleme
And this is exactly why the press went after Trump's immigration comments so hard. They thought it was a chance to make the GOP and Trump look mean spirited.

Instead it backfired. The general support for building a wall and enforcing immigration law recoiled against the press.

28 posted on 08/27/2015 9:24:27 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NoDRodee
Once he decided he would run as Republican he know the issue of immigration would fire up the base. That's all he's doing and a lot of people are buying it.

Trump is whatever Trump needs to be to promote his brand. Right now he is refashioning his brand as a Republican presidential candidate. This requires him shift positions to fit that mold. It's why his positions are so disjointed when actually called to explain stuff. He hasn't actually thought these things out because he isn't an ideological conservative. He is not grounded in conservative thought.

He's acts mad, repeats a few platitudes over and over again and throws red meat out to the base. Never mind that he may not be sincere about any of it - which his history suggests is likely the case.

I could understand some people giving him a look. Heck, I agree with much of what he has said about immigration. But the degree to which many supposed conservatives have become fanatical Trumpkins, as if this is all some sort of cult of personality, despite Trump's lack of conservative history (quite the opposite actually as he's just as often been a Dem/liberal) is disturbing to watch. It makes me realize how easy a clownish populist can fool a heck of a lot of otherwise learned people. We've seen that through history, and this is a reminder that it can always happen again.

30 posted on 08/27/2015 9:33:09 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: canuck_conservative

Absolutely.


31 posted on 08/27/2015 9:36:00 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: justlittleoleme
I just don't trust him.

Considering he is a liberal, no conservative should.

32 posted on 08/27/2015 9:38:14 AM PDT by South40 (Falling for Trump's rhetoric while ignoring his liberal past is incredibly foolish)
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To: Starstruck
How dare they. I have never seen anything like this on FR.

To be fair, posting the same articles over and over can be annoying. All candidates have shifted at least some positions, in most cases we generally know where they have "evolved".

Saying that, it is important to remind people that Trump has "evolved" on nearly everything in a fairly short period of time. No one here truly believes most other candidates that do that, we all tend to assume it is political expediency - but with Trump this fanatical Trumpkin core seem to believe everything "the Donald" has to say no matter how ridiculous or how utterly counter it was to positions he held only a few short months/years ago.

Not sure it matters. You could post an article from 2 days ago where Trump talks about massive tax increases on the top bracket and people who once opposed the Democrats for proposing the same things would suddenly support it - for no other reason than Trump is saying it. Then if Trump rejected the idea a few days later, they'd say they now support this new position.

33 posted on 08/27/2015 9:40:41 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
He hasn't actually thought these things out because he isn't an ideological conservative. He is not grounded in conservative thought.

He is a liberal pretending to be conservative.

34 posted on 08/27/2015 9:41:24 AM PDT by South40 (Falling for Trump's rhetoric while ignoring his liberal past is incredibly foolish)
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To: LS

I don’t even see how this is really contradictory to his current positions. Slick Willard’s plans for pretty much everything were incoherent, focus-group-tested, BS.

The thing that all these hand-wringers don’t get is that Trump making a statement as a private citizen that was never questioned or fleshed out is NOTHING like a politician taking a position on an issue to his/her constituents.

That aside, Reading Trump’s words, I can easily see how someone could make a persuasive case that he didn’t change his position at all. He thought Romney’s plan was dumb and that Republicans appeared mean spirited. He’ll still tell you that now with regard to Romney’s dumb ‘47%’ remark. Has anyone even asked Trump to clarify this?

Trump didn’t support the 05 attempt at amnesty. He didn’t support the Gang of Eight bill. He didn’t talk about ‘acts of love’ or any other such nonsense.

Plus, if he’s lying to us now, what’s the point? So he can go from making $400M a year to $400k? Bragging rights? So, he’s going to betray all of the people supporting him and become the most hated man in American history, because that supposedly strokes his ego somehow? I just don’t get what these people are thinking.

From everything I can see about Trump, he views what he’s promising us as a contract in exchange for our votes. It would appear to me to be out of character for him to violate that contract.

With Trump, at least I have hope that he’ll actually pursue his goals with enough gusto to get them enacted. With the other guys, (including Cruz at this point) not so much.


35 posted on 08/27/2015 9:45:39 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Longbow1969
To be fair, posting the same articles over and over can be annoying.

I agree. But on the other hand I spend a fair amount of time on FR and don't remember seeing this article. That could be because I have my settings on Comments rather than Articles. I'm sure there are other people who missed this too. I think this is very important, because it is the issue that has catapulted him to the lead.

36 posted on 08/27/2015 9:52:42 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Sure seems like that in today’s media.


37 posted on 08/27/2015 9:59:07 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Starstruck

I agree with Trump it is important to show how many times his positions seem to “evolve” depending on the circumstance. One of the things people claim to like about Trump is he is authentic and a straight shooter. Having “evolved” so regularly kinda shows he is more a chameleon than some rock of conservatism.

As far as I am concerned Trumpkins ought to stop claiming they want a genuine conservative and just admit that an anti-intellectual, protectionist populist (with even just a few conservative positions) is quite fine with them. That makes the debate more easy to deal with and frees the Trumpkins from having to defend their candidates flip flips and otherwise non conservative positions - both past and present. It would certainly change the character of a forum like this that is dedicated to conservatism, but it would be more honest for them to take that approach.


38 posted on 08/27/2015 10:07:38 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: justlittleoleme

“Making America Great Again” is a very positive message.


39 posted on 08/27/2015 10:12:11 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Starstruck

I think you missed my sarc tag FRiend. Lol


40 posted on 08/27/2015 10:27:34 AM PDT by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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