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Yes, Trump does mean the end of the GOP
The Washington Post ^ | August 27th, 2015 | By Tom Toles

Posted on 08/27/2015 9:25:05 AM PDT by Mariner

Lindsay Graham, as part of the taunt-war he’s having with Donald Trump, says that if Trump wins the GOP nomination, it will mean the end of the Republican Party. He’s right, but Trump means the end of the Republican Party even if he doesn’t get the nomination.

I wrote a few weeks ago that Trump represents the Jump the Shark moment of the party. The GOP has been a rickety, unsustainable contraption of policy prescriptions that don’t add up, don’t really represent the coalition’s actual members, and is based on a backward-looking set of views appealing to an ever-shrinking demographic. It has been held together this long with an ever-more-obfuscatory confabulation of misdirection, packaged in buzzwords and amped with anger. It was overdue to come unglued.

Trump is a disruptor of the most lethal sort. His blunt language is shattering the brittle framework of GOP nostrums that forever promise things they don’t deliver. He is revealing the basic discordance between party leaders and rank and file. He is like the rogue catalyst that breaks one bond, then moves on to break the next and the next. There’s no easy way to stop this, though the party establishment is frantically trying to think of one.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; 2016issues; theend; trump2016
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To: Mariner

hope they have a monument.

I will need a place to pee.

they sold us out like a 5 dollar whore on buck night.


81 posted on 08/27/2015 10:33:28 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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To: Mariner
First, the GOP must die. Everything else comes after that.

First, GOP is nothing but a nickname. Our party is the Republican Party. The nickname of the Republican Party didn't get attached to it until 1888. Previously, the nickname had been used by Southern Democrats. After the Republicans won back the Presidency and Congress for the first time since the Grant administration, the Chicago Tribune proclaimed: "Let us be thankful that under the rule of the Grand Old Party ... these United States will resume the onward and upward march which the election of Grover Cleveland in 1884 partially arrested."

Second, there is nothing wrong with the Republican Party. It has simply been infiltrated by too many RINOs beholden to the lobbyists. Trump gives us a chance to get back to our roots hopefully by exposing them and just maybe converting some based on his popular strength.

82 posted on 08/27/2015 10:33:36 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Mariner

“What’s that, some silly-assed GOPe compromise offer?”

Do you vote that ticket with Cruz on top? VP is meaningless unless the President dies. Heck, Biden did it for 8 years.

I have no problem with Bush as VP because in 8 years I will vote for anyone opposing him.


83 posted on 08/27/2015 10:35:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (2016 - Jews for Cruz)
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To: AmusedBystander
-First, GOP is nothing but a nickname. Our party is the Republican Party

I am glad my old history teacher was able to make to the party today. Dude, you must be 100 years old by now.

84 posted on 08/27/2015 10:37:37 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Unless the nominee is Cruz.
Yea, maybe Heidi Cruz. She has more accomplisments and more Presidential qualifications than Ted.

Besides doing his job as a lawyer and talks "conservative" ("talk" being the operative word) Ted has nothing...zero, zilch, nada.

85 posted on 08/27/2015 10:37:39 AM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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To: Mariner

Oh good, Tom Toles...that wart on the backside of humanity. Could he not find his crayons today and decided to scribble instead?


86 posted on 08/27/2015 10:39:12 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: Mariner

87 posted on 08/27/2015 10:39:49 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: yuleeyahoo

Agreed! Our government has been socialized by the media’s political correctness nearly beyond recognition. This is at every level, education, medias, political, agenda, even affecting the religious beliefs of our nation.
SINISTER INDEED!

BIG TROUBLE IN AMERICA!


88 posted on 08/27/2015 10:40:43 AM PDT by geologist
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To: Mariner
First, the GOP must die.

The GOP killed itself. Trump will simply sweep it up and rebuild, in an anti-establishment way.

89 posted on 08/27/2015 10:41:52 AM PDT by dware (Trump/Cruz 2016, or get ready for 8 more dummycrat years)
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To: Mariner
First, the GOP must die.

You trust that the Democrats will allow anything to take it's place. I don't.

First GOP dies, second say hello to a one party totalitarian state.

90 posted on 08/27/2015 10:44:12 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: hadaclueonce
I am glad my old history teacher was able to make to the party today. Dude, you must be 100 years old by now.

And just as smart as I was then when you had a head full of mush. I must have been a good influence as you're on a conservative site.

91 posted on 08/27/2015 10:44:21 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Mariner

In order to defeat the democRATs, we must first defeat the Republicans


92 posted on 08/27/2015 10:46:55 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: LS

Who cares about the GOP. Otherwise known as the Gutless Other Party. Besides they can always officially rejoin the National Social Democrat Party since that is what they are anyway.


93 posted on 08/27/2015 10:47:07 AM PDT by JayAr36 (A land without borders is not a country. So where did America go?)
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To: TMA62

I often cite Lee Atwater too. Atwater was the last fighting GOP consultant. The rest since are a bunch of purse-swinging, limp-wristed, bed-wetters.


94 posted on 08/27/2015 10:51:58 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

WHAT IS TRUE IS America HAS BEEN BLESSED AND HAS OFFERED THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR/TO EACH OF US. NOT EVERYONE IS WILLING TO ATTEMPT TO LOVE FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND DIRECTION. IT IS DAUNTING. MIND CONTROL IS A DANGEROUS THING AND THE GOVERNMENT IS WELL INTO PROMOTING IT EXCLUSIVELY.

WHAT NOW? RELIGION AND TURNING FROM CHRISTIANITY IS AT BASE. HOLDING ON TO OUR FAITH IS PARAMOUNT . lET US PRAY AND REPENT


95 posted on 08/27/2015 10:52:25 AM PDT by geologist
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Perhaps the question we REALLY need to be asking though, is how will the Don deal with the Fed? The Fed and the international bankers ARE the one world govt conspiracy, and it seems like they are the ones who give presidents their marching orders. The GOPe are bad and the Rats are odious, but in some ways they are all minions of the bankers.


96 posted on 08/27/2015 10:55:30 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Bush I started the death sprial with his “No New Taxes” Pledge he couldn’t keep. Bush II sealed it with his weakness and wars. Then came Dole, McCain and Mittens. Even the Tea Party (Killed with help from the GOP) couldn’t save it. It must be A) Revived at the core with a new direction or B) die and be replaced by a new party. I believe this election is a turning point in American History. Its like 1860 all over again. A new Movement needs to be started within the ranks of the GOP—A new Club within the party that will seek patriotic goals and dump internationalism.


97 posted on 08/27/2015 10:56:25 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"Do you vote that ticket with Cruz on top? "

No.

98 posted on 08/27/2015 10:58:11 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Re: GOP “He’s dead, Jim” Every one of us came to (will come to) that painful place, some years earlier than others. Each has a different trigger.

Mine came when they pushed through the Patriot Act. I knew then it would be abused and aimed at Americans while the PC Crowd would continue to give a pass to every bad element that wanted to come to this once great country to trash it.

It only got worse from there. W's constant move to the left with things like Medicare Perscription Drug coverage showed me the R party was done being anything other than "lesser of the two Evils".

Then there was W's smart assed comments on Immigration with his "see you at the signing" smirk. With his leaders of Congress stuck behind him with their head up his ass. His "Compassionate Conservative" mantra was nothing more than Socialism lite.

99 posted on 08/27/2015 10:58:28 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: Mariner
I think you are being overly dramatic.

Both parties have been morphing--sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse--and which often depends upon one's personal priorities & orientation--throughout their histories.

Certainly much of the recent leadership of the Republican Party, particularly at the Federal level, has been a manifest disaster. They act like "whipped curs," on the most crucial issues, which affect our most cherished institutions; indeed issues that will effect, whether America survives in a recognizable form. Unmasking their total inadequacy is important; important beyond the merely economic; important beyond anything merely theoretical. They are, in effect, conceding the end of the Founder's clear vision for the future. With neither common sense, analytic competence or the mettle of anything remotely resembling leadership, they are surrendering every legitimate line of defense.

But let us not suggest that the Party Quislings, are the only definition of a political party. There are others, perhaps staying in the Party, because of pride in something their parents did in 1964 or 1980--or maybe something their great grandparents did in 1896, when the Conservative Grover Cleveland Democrats, lost that party to slogan spewing, class-warfare embracing Leftists. Or perhaps simply inspired by something one of the few genuine Conservatives said recently.

The Party does not have to die. It merely needs to boot out an inadequate, forked tongued leadership, which is either totally clueless or totally indifferent to what is required to save the America that better men won by successive generations of purpose driven struggle.

100 posted on 08/27/2015 11:01:24 AM PDT by Ohioan
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