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Another Impossible Thing May Happen: Change in Partisan Alignments
Townhall.com ^ | September 1, 2015 | Michael Barone

Posted on 09/01/2015 6:26:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Redleg Duke

Very well said


21 posted on 09/01/2015 7:01:33 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

No matter who holds the reigns of big government, there will be cronyism. It is only human nature. Be they college professors or evangelical ministers, big government will corrupt all of them. My sorrow today is that all efforts on behalf of small government and free markets have been a complete failure. Even most conservatives today do not believe in them.


22 posted on 09/01/2015 7:03:15 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

As long as blacks as a whole continue to live down on the gubment plantation, their alignment will not change.

When you see a black leader, gain national prominence and a following speaking the truth about being slaves to the government, you will see no realignment of the black vote, and like it or not, I see no one like that on the horizon anytime soon.


23 posted on 09/01/2015 7:06:29 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: gusty

The Trump phenominon is really about one thing and one thing only: bullying.

People are tired of the Progressive bullying tactics and Trump is the only one who is, or at least capable of, standing up to it and fighting back.

Tie that bullying to the use of coercive state powers to oppress and suppress dissent, and you have a very powerful weapon for small-government Conservatism.


24 posted on 09/01/2015 7:12:12 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The tax system needs a complete overhaul, too many pay nothing. So yes, I can see a radical change occurring there as part of this realignment which would result in many people having to pay more than they currently do.

The open border, free market, NAFTA, NWO belief system is almost certainly going down the toilet (not just here, but everywhere around the globe)

The return of the “trust buster” is nearly certain too in my opinion. Any business that is “too big to fail” is by definition TOO BIG! I think we will see a return of this to the forefront of priorities.

I also think it's long overdue for conservative Blacks to come home to the Republican party, and I think they will be accompanied by legal Hispanics who dislike illegals even more than most whites.

25 posted on 09/01/2015 7:13:26 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Kaslin

Barone is trying to apply historical statistical analysis to a process out side the historic parameters. Numbers are the bread and butter on which he thrives

Party and normalcy are Trumped by disgust and disdain. The event is emotional enough to cause rational decision making to be cast aside. Voters are apparently climbing out of their ruts.

Most of the candidates rely on Baronian type analysis that is not meaningful in the Trump context


26 posted on 09/01/2015 7:18:06 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, .. Iran deal & holocaust: Obama's batting clean up for Adolph Hitler)
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To: gusty

Funny that you mentioned that.. since I was thinking something very similar... that Trumps coalition (not so much Trump himself) reminds me most of... JFK’s base. Or basically, a 1950’s Democrat.

Meanwhile Democrats have finally taken off the mask and have gone full on socialist.


27 posted on 09/01/2015 7:18:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
The return of the “trust buster” is nearly certain too in my opinion. Any business that is “too big to fail” is by definition TOO BIG! I think we will see a return of this to the forefront of priorities.

And that is the one issue on which the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street are in near-unanimous agreement. Hence the realignment.


28 posted on 09/01/2015 7:27:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jsanders2001

Whatever you are drinking, I want some.

Ain’t gonna happen. Blacks will remain solidly in the Democrat column at a rate of 85% plus.

Hispanics, if they identify as Hispanics, are likely to remain Democrat as well, but not in overwhelming numbers like blacks. More like 60%.

IMHO, Conservative “Hispanics” don’t really ID as Hispanic - they identify as American and White.


29 posted on 09/01/2015 7:30:19 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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30 posted on 09/01/2015 8:00:14 AM PDT by Salamander ('Cause We're All Kinds Of Animals Coming Here. [Occasional Demons, Too])
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To: Kaslin

If you are the black carpenter who now can’t get a job because of all the illegal aliens, or a union autoworker who saw his job go to Mexico, you are ripe for a Republican like Trump who almost alone among the candidates sees your plight.

But if the Republican establishment is all you see, you know that their candidate(s) don’t give a damn about you. They work for the Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street and the lobbyists with their bags of money.

It is not Trump who is losing voter blocs - it is the deceit coming from the GOPe that keeps these disenfranchised from voting Republican.


31 posted on 09/01/2015 8:28:50 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

This may be the very reason that Ben Carson is #2 in almost every poll. I heard someone say, a Ben Carson supporter, “he is saying everything Trump is saying, just more quietly. He is a gentle soul.” He also glorifies God in almost every interview and speech, right now I am in his camp.


32 posted on 09/01/2015 8:41:45 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Little Ray

> Whatever you are drinking, I want some.

This is what I’m gleaning from Facebook posts, Youtube videos, posts online, pastors, personally speaking with them on the streets. Its just a personal observation, sort of like you know when there’s about to be a rain storm. You can smell it in the air and feel it coming.


33 posted on 09/01/2015 9:48:57 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Smokin' Joe

> Considering the electoral demographics, if we just taxed stupidity, we could eliminate the national debt.

In California alone...: )


34 posted on 09/01/2015 9:50:36 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Little Ray

In a way you’re both right.

The most likely scenario is that over the next several cycles disaffected Blacks and Hispanics stay home on election day. They won’t cross over to vote GOP but will take action (inaction) that will benefit GOP candidates.

If the GOP can start consistantly running Conservative candidates who will appeal to them on economic bread and butter issues, those “passive aggressive” cycles will be a window of opportunity to slowly start pulling them over.


35 posted on 09/01/2015 9:56:35 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Trump is proposing to raise taxes on the wealthy.

His 1%, 5%, 10%, 15% plan is a tax cut for almost everyone other than those that currently pay no taxes at all. It would destroy the tax preparer business.

36 posted on 09/01/2015 9:59:02 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: gusty

Certainly for the likes os SS and Medicare.


37 posted on 09/01/2015 10:54:28 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jsanders2001

I hope you are right!


38 posted on 09/01/2015 12:18:20 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Latinos love a “strong Man” who is seen as Honest—General Santa Ana was President of Mexico 11 times after all (once elected by a majority). It is logical that a strong man —like Trump would cause them to be impressed and support him. They see a strong man as a counter to corruption and the power of a few big, rich familes. How do you Corrupt Trump? Not with Money—he’s as rich as Uncle Scrooge. Threats? he can hire an army of security?


39 posted on 09/01/2015 12:43:40 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: gusty
The whole Trump phenomenom has told me that small government conservatism is dead. With most people on the right, including the purists, Conservatism was only skin deep. It was based purely on social issues, underneath there was pure New Deal Liberalism on the issues of government and economics.

You let the cat out the bag. Shame on you!

But seriously, I think you're right.

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t gonna resign.




40 posted on 09/01/2015 12:53:54 PM PDT by rdb3 (What did you dream? It's alright, we told you what to dream!)
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