Posted on 09/01/2015 1:54:34 PM PDT by maggief
Unlike Trump, Solomon and all the others you mentioned, including Abe Lincoln, humbly confessed their sins, and their nation’s sins, to God, and then cast their fate, and the fate of their nation, on the Lord and His mercy.
Trump’s never done anything that requires repentance, he says.
Crucial life and death difference.
My original point stands.
Because immigration trumps everything else. Only immigration will end the USA. (OK nuclear war will also...but the GOPe isn't proposing a nuclear war. They are however in favor of continued unchecked population transfers from the third world)
Sorry Rubio, a country with a $19 TRILLION debt and neither party (including you and your handlers) willing to do a DAMN THING about it is NOT GREAT, maybe was great...but is not great anymore.
Rather, it is RUNNING ON FUMES.
Damaged Goods... Return to sender
There is not a single solitary thing “great” about a nation that pays to have babies slaughtered and their parts harvested for profit.
Record numbers on food stamps, record or near record numbers out of the workforce, hundreds of billions of dollars in savings and investments lost, we’re being invaded by third world future Dim voters, etc., etc., and this knucklehead wants to challenge Trump’s slogan?
I agree with Rubio on this one
America is great, we have troops fighting over seas that are great
We have great families, hard working productive people, as Rubio said we can do better but there is no better country,
Clueless.
That’s exactly right. After eight years of Hurricane Obama there’s a lot of damage... a lot of cleanup that needs to take place. Few are happy with the direction.
I can’t find any time that Lincoln, prior to the presidency “humbly confessed his sins”. You are assuming you know people’s relationship with God. In Lincoln’s case the evidence isn’t there.
Thanks.
All I’m going on is what Donald Trump has openly told us.
You should go back and read some of Lincoln's speeches from 1858. He spoke with great moral cogency and power. So much so that it cost him the Illinois U.S. Senate seat to Stephen A. Douglas...But of course ultimately won him the presidency in 1860.
Sorry. Donald Trump doesn't possess any of that. He gets on the stump and rambles around for an hour about himself and how great he is.
Here's small example for you:
------
"These communities [the Fathers of the Republic], by their representatives in old Independence Hall, said to the whole world of men: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.'"This was their majestic interpretation of the economy of the Universe. This was their lofty, and wise, and noble understanding of the justice of the Creator to his creatures.
"Yes, gentlemen, to all his creatures, to the whole great family of man. In their enlightened belief, nothing stamped with the Divine image and likeness was sent into the world to be trodden on and degraded, and imbruted by its fellows. They grasped not only the whole race of man then living, but they reached forward and seized upon the farthest posterity. They erected a beacon to guide their children, and their children's children, and the countless myriads who should inhabit the earth in other ages.
"Wise statesmen as they were, they knew the tendency of prosperity to breed tyrants, and so they established these great self-evident truths, that when in the distant future some man, some faction, some interest, should set up the doctrine that none but rich men, or none but white men, or none but Anglo-Saxon white men, were entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, their posterity might look up again to the Declaration of Independence and take courage to renew the battle which their fathers began, so that truth and justice and mercy and all the humane and Christian virtues might not be extinguished from the land; so that no man would hereafter dare to limit and circumscribe the great principles on which the temple of liberty was being built.
"Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines conflicting with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence; if you have listened to suggestions which would take away from its grandeur and mutilate the fair symmetry of its proportions; if you have been inclined to believe that all men are not created equal in those inalienable rights enumerated by our chart of liberty, let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountain whose waters spring close by the blood of the Revolution. Think nothing of me — take no thought for the political fate of any man whomsoever — but come back to the truths that are in the Declaration of Independence. You may do anything with me you choose, if you will but heed these sacred principles. You may not only defeat me for the Senate, but you may take me and put me to death. While pretending no indifference to earthly honors, I do claim to be actuated in this contest by something higher than an anxiety for office. I charge you to drop every paltry and insignificant thought for any man's success. It is nothing; I am nothing; Judge Douglas is nothing. But do not destroy that immortal emblem of Humanity — the Declaration of American Independence."
-- Abraham Lincoln, speech in Lewiston, Illinois, August 17, 1858, four days before his first historic debate with Stephen A. Douglas, Printed in the Chicago Press and Tribune.
-----
Another important example I would point you to is Lincoln’s amazing 1858 “House Divided” speech.
I bet Rubio thinks Obama is a Christian. And a good family man. And loves America.
The biggest ears in the Senate since Howard Metzenbaum.
Most L scholars doubt that he ever became a Christian---I don't--but it was Lincoln himself who said he did not become a believer til 1863. For some time he was a Christian basher, writing a virulent anti-Christian tract at one time. You might want to see Steven Mansfield's "Lincoln s Battle With God" or Guelzo' "Abraham Lincolnn, Redeemer President.
Point is, Trump claims to be a Christian (Lincoln didn't) and goes to church (Lincoln paid for a pew but rarely attended). So before you judge, you would be guilty of calling BOTH men liars.
What Trump has told us is he is a Christian, that he goes to church (he does), that he loves the Bible (who knows?), that he is a church member (he is). So based on what he says, he is further along than Lincoln at this point unless you want to start doubting both men.
Give me a break. Lincoln was a leader, and ultimately THE leader, on the central moral question of his day. So much so that those who opposed that moral agenda were willing to go to war when he was elected.
Trump is no leader on any of the moral questions of our day, much less the most important ones.
Which was my original point.
I don’t care if politicians say Jesus every other word. I want to know where they stand, and have consistently stood, on the moral questions of our day and on public policy.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.