"Clinton: Officials should 'uphold the law'"
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252739-clinton-officials-should-uphold-the-law
Posted on 09/03/2015 10:03:37 AM PDT by GIdget2004
Dan Griffin @WSAZDanGriffin 2m2 minutes ago Judge says financial fines not enough. #WSAZ
Dan Griffin @WSAZDanGriffin 4m4 minutes ago BREAKING: Davis held in contempt taken by U.S. Marshals. #WSAZ
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You are irrational.
That’s rich buddy.
I agree that this action cannot be tolerated. The question is: what can be done? The imprisonment of Kim Davis, unlike that of Rosa Parks, is effectively indefinite. She will be held in prison until such time as she recants, resigns the office, or is removed by the legislature of Kentucky or the voters. Rosa Parks was punished for a set period for her violation of public accommodation law that mandated racial segregation. The civil rights movement had an effective action plan: boycotting the Montgomery public transit system and downtown merchants. It did not succeed in its immediate goals, but it helped trigger a civil rights revolution that in due course toppled state laws mandating segregation, culminating in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and later statutes. What is the long term strategy of conservative Christians? Prayer is advisable and even mandatory, but faith without works is dead.
No. It is true. You are absolutely irrational.
You have been trying for days to corner me into your poorly laid trap. Finally you gave up and simply assumed I said that some marriage licensing is important. I never did.
Laws against sexual assault on children are criminal, not civil.
The government has no business licensing marriage.
I’m not trapping you I’m trying to determine your position, which seems to be all over the place.
Kennedy, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan should be impeached for their lawlessness, abuse of power, and violation of their Oath.
"Clinton: Officials should 'uphold the law'"
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252739-clinton-officials-should-uphold-the-law
“Clinton: Officials should ‘uphold the law’”
It appears that he did. I have a lot of problems with what the Pope has said on a number of issues, but if this report turns out to be true, he did the right thing: http://insidethevatican.com/news/letter-38-2015-kim-and-francis
Here's a New York Times article on this: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/county-clerk-kim-davis-who-denied-gay-couples-visited-pope.html
68 posted on 9/3/2015, 12:16:34 PM by tanknetter: If there’s one positive about this, it’s that Matt Bevins probably just won the governorship. And KY Democrats have lost their state house majority.
Barack Obama's "War on Coal" is wrecking the Democratic Party in West Virginia, as well as other neighboring states where rural Appalachian conservative Democrats are a major factor. Pushing a gay agenda drove Kim Davis out of the Democratic Party, and a lot of others will likely follow.
If Barack Obama's goal were to destroy the Democratic Party in the rural South, he couldn't be doing a better job of it.
Being perceived as anti-God, anti-gun, and pro-gay is not a recipe for attracting and keeping Southern Democrats.
If this stuff continues, we may end up seeing the United Mine Workers inviting Republican candidates to Labor Day parades all over Appalachia, and Democrats switching party affiliations in droves. Maybe something good will come out of this after all.
No biggie - thanks for letting me know!
A new Poll in KY has Conway up over Bevins by 5, btw. Same poll had McConnell neck and neck with Grimes at this point last year (I think) And McConnell won by 15.
So I’m pretty hopeful about Bevins and the KY GOP. I’m sure that Francis appearing to validate Davis as a persecuted Christian will have some impact in Bevins’ direction. And Conway is having some issues with Black pastors in Louisville ...
I don't know why this factually false information keeps being posted on Free Republic. It's been going on for years, with numerous people. Not meaning to attack you; you're just the latest person I've seen and I happen to be annoyed enough about other issues that I'm responding.
I have personally seen marriage licenses in county courthouses dating back to the early 1800s. Government-issued marriage licenses long predate the “early 20th century,” and long predate the 1800s, as well.
That may be a good or a bad thing, but it's a matter of indisputable fact.
The state has legitimate government interests in protecting and promoting marriage, not the least of which interests include child custody and inheritance rights.
It is a mark of social collapse that we now have huge percentages of children born out of wedlock, and even those born within marriage are quite likely to experience divorce. The government can and should be promoting and encouraging marriages. The fact that it isn't doing so, and actually is doing damage to marriage, doesn't mean that it doesn't have a legitimate interest in marriage.
Politicians sometimes do things which hurt the people they're supposed to be helping. That's nothing new. Damaging marriage is just a new example of government governing badly.
Actually, Yaelle, that is **NOT** the law. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which codifies much older principles and precedents, was put into place precisely to protect religious minorities such as those of your Jewish faith from being abused by employers.
As with most laws, the devil is in the details. To make a very long and complicated issue short, if you claim a sincerely held religious belief prevents you from doing something your employer wants, the courts do not have the right to inquire into whether your beliefs are right or wrong. All they can do is determine whether your beliefs are sincerely held.
Once that has been determined, your employer **MUST** show a good-faith effort to accommodate your sincerely held religious beliefs. Often (actually nearly all the time) that's possible. An Orthodox Jew or Seventh Day Adventist can and should be allowed to work on Sundays rather than Saturdays. If the employee must get home before sundown on Friday to observe the Sabbath, that employee can be allowed to come in early on Friday morning.
Those are common-sense accommodations. Most of the time they work. Exceptions exist, but the burden of proof is on the employer to prove that an accommodation cannot be offered once employees have proved the sincerity of their religious belief.
Conservative Christians, now that it's clear we are in the minority (at least on the national level) are going to have to become much more aware of our rights under the law. Minority religions have asked for and received accommodations for a very long time. Those accommodations don't have a “don't apply” clause for people who wear crosses.
The practice of banns was left largely untouched by Protestant reformers and the Anglicans actually codified them into law.
The absurd notion that government has no business in marriage is simply a libertarian ruse to support same-sex "marriage" while pretending to oppose it. The libertarians do this with the entire leftist agenda.
Or, she can be impeached by the Kentucky state legislature if a special session costing millions of taxpayers' dollars were to be convened.
Even the state governor cannot remove her.
Ms. Davis has reiterated she will NEVER resign or retire under any circumstances.
Leni
What you saw was marriage bands, published and filed with the state announcing the marriage of so and so. Licensure was never required for marriage in a church as a religious rite until the 20th century.
sorry, banns, not bands.
The governor is on the side of the Homo-Nazis. It is his executive order that Kim Davis refused to obey. That's what started this.
You are posting on the wrong forum. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. Kim Davis is standing up to judicial tyranny. You are supporting it.
Repent!!!!
Have you heard that she can’t be fired? :-)
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