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Ted Cruz’s measured defense of Kentucky clerk who won’t issue marriage licenses to gay couples
Dallas Morning News ^ | September 2, 2015 | Sylvan Lane

Posted on 09/03/2015 4:13:30 PM PDT by Isara

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To: HiTech RedNeck

I agree with you there. We won’t get through this without the Lord’s help and direction. Our leaders and many of our citizens have lost our moral way and turned away from God.

I pray that a way will become known to us soon.


41 posted on 09/03/2015 5:23:30 PM PDT by conservativegranny (Cruz 2016)
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To: JoSixChip

No argument here. The list of those who should be behind bars is long indeed. Her arrest is sending a message for sure. Most of us expected that this was coming sooner rather than later:(


42 posted on 09/03/2015 5:25:51 PM PDT by conservativegranny (Cruz 2016)
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To: jpsb

Just pretty happy that this civil servant didn’t embrace Islam and do her job according to those religious tenants.

Happy we have a separation of religion and state in this great country.


43 posted on 09/03/2015 5:25:55 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: Kickass Conservative

She was elected and thus works in and for those who elected her. IF those in the county disagree she could be impeached. The arrest and judicial nonsense came from the top down and is nothing more than persecution of a Christian the judge overstepped his bounds.


44 posted on 09/03/2015 5:25:59 PM PDT by madison10 (If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter)
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To: Iron Munro

I guess she is ‘saved’ now but seems she had an issue with marriage in general back in the day.


45 posted on 09/03/2015 5:27:32 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: mrsmith

So, if the SCOTUS ruled in our Favor on an issue and it was taken as obviously violating the Constitution by our Liberal Enemies, we would side with them?

Please don’t suggest that I agree with what the SCOTUS did, but it is a done deal until it gets reversed at some future date, which I doubt it will.

The Woman has chosen to be a Martyr by violating a Law for which she disagrees by refusing to do her Job. IMHO the Judge went way over the line, but that is par for the course when the Judiciary has been Liberalized for Years.

I wish her the best of luck but I don’t think she has a leg to stand on. This is just another Political chasm that has been created out of thin air by our Dear Leader to create division between Americans.


46 posted on 09/03/2015 5:38:25 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Just another Bitter Clinger living the dream in Obamaville...)
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To: Kickass Conservative
I was not calling anyone a nazi, just suggesting that we might want to look where obeying immoral laws leads.

Also you might ponder this; The Supreme Court renders marriage laws in Kentucky null and void. There are no longer any marriage laws in Kentucky. So without marriage laws just how is she to legally issue a marriage license?

47 posted on 09/03/2015 5:46:54 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: american colleen
we have a separation of religion and state in this great country.

We don't. Congress is prohibited from establishing a religion. US law is based on Judaeo/Christian ethics.

48 posted on 09/03/2015 5:50:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: american colleen
"Happy we have a separation of religion and state in this great country."

The States' religion is Secular Humanism and the State is imposing that religion on the nation.

49 posted on 09/03/2015 5:51:58 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
"US law is based on Judaeo/Christian ethics."

That was in the old days. Today US law is based on secular humanism

From Wiki

The philosophy or life stance of secular humanism embraces human reason, ethics, and philosophical naturalism while specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience, and superstition as the basis of morality and decision making.

50 posted on 09/03/2015 5:57:59 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb
Today US law is based on secular humanism

No, today's ethics are based on the mental disorder also known as the queer agenda.

51 posted on 09/03/2015 6:11:26 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: american colleen; JoSixChip

“Obviously being married four times and divorced three times and getting pregnant by someone other than your current husband wasn’t against her religious beliefs :(”

American Colleen,

If you followed this story you would know that she became a Christian in 2011 and repented of these sins. She is endeavoring to live a true Christian life.


52 posted on 09/03/2015 6:12:48 PM PDT by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Secular humanism is the root cause; the queer agenda is a byproduct. Secular humanism and its handmaiden, cultural Marxism, subverted this nation for many decades prior to the Stonewall riots in New York in 1969.
53 posted on 09/03/2015 6:18:50 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
cultural Marxism

Well, you could call it that. But the then Soviet Union began their divide-and-conquer liberation-schtick on blacks, hippies, women, faggots and anything they could think of.

That is largely why most blacks are inexplicably a monolithic RAT voting bloc (and they don't even know why)

So, Debbie Wasserman Schultz..What's the difference between a RAT and a Socialist?

Neither do I.

54 posted on 09/03/2015 6:32:54 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: Isara

It seems to me that Lane is trying to make a distinction where there is no difference. Cruz has been one of the more vocal candidates against this action all day.


55 posted on 09/03/2015 6:38:23 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Isara

So how does gay marriage affect your life asked the libertarians here at FR? Well we now know that if you are a butcher, a baker, a candle stick maker or a lowly public servant the state will jail you and break you until you are forced to participate in something that violates your religious principles.


56 posted on 09/03/2015 6:39:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Kickass Conservative

Not “taken as obviously violating the Constitution by our Liberal Enemies,” nor by conservatives or moderates even.
Forget their and our opinions.

...But by EVERY author and ratifier of the Constitution, and EVERY author and ratifier of every amendment.
I don’t think that can be said of any other SC ruling.(Unlike abortion every one knew of and condemned sodomy- at least publically).

The clerk hasn’t any more legal recourse than Galileo had against the Inquisition. The law is the law and transgressors must be punished whether they are good or no.
I’m saying the court must bear the blame for the disorder they’ve produced. An overreaching court is the cause here and civil disobedience is just the effect.


57 posted on 09/03/2015 6:42:55 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Calpublican

You are right of course.

She’s just a poor messenger really ... and sadly, even repented of, our sins do have a way of following us in this world.

Regardless, it seems to me that she is no different than say a president who won’t use the military because he doesn’t believe in killing or a judge not granting divorces because he believes it’s against God’s will, etc. etc. She is paid to give a piece of paper to two people saying that the government approves their union. What she believes doesn’t have a thing to do with her paid employment.

Seems to me that she doesn’t want her sincerely held beliefs to interfere with her high paying public job.


58 posted on 09/03/2015 7:03:53 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen

The question is did the Supreme Court violate the Constitution.


59 posted on 09/03/2015 7:20:48 PM PDT by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: Calpublican

Well, that is an entirely different can of worms.


60 posted on 09/03/2015 7:36:21 PM PDT by american colleen
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