Posted on 09/03/2015 4:13:30 PM PDT by Isara
Judgmental much, are we? Does it make any difference to you that all of the things you listed occurred BEFORE she came to Christ? How can she be a hypocrite for not living according to moral standards that she did not claim to believe at the time?
As for Kim Davis, she could turn out to be the big winner here. "Poor lady, tossed into a dungeon because she loves and obeys God. She's just the kind of courageous leader that this country needs! Her talents are being wasted as a clerk. She looks like a Vice President to me!!"
If the Kentucky Legislature and Governor passed Legislation getting rid of State Sponsored Marriage, then the Clerk can’t give out something that doesn’t exist.
Sounds good to me. Too bad it hasn’t happened yet.
I didn’t say you called anyone a Nazi. You just brought it up as a comparison to what is going on in Kentucky. Not a convincing argument as far as I’m concerned.
Immoral is in the eye of the beholder. People can start to pick and choose what is immoral when deciding to not to obey the Law, like having to donate Tax Money under fear of Prosecution to our bloated Unconstitutional Government.
See post #58 plz.
See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3332769/posts?page=151#151 and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3332769/posts?page=185#185
How does this relate to Kim Davis?
If you really think about what Cruz is saying here, it’s “let’s find a way to co-exist.”
He’s also equating court opinions with federal and state law, which is a fallacy. One of the most destructive fallacies there has ever been in America.
Which doesn’t surprise me at all, because I figured out some time ago that he is a judicial supremacist, by training and by choice.
But he certainly has millions of conservatives snookered. They really think he’s on their side against out of control, lawless courts, when he’s not, really. Not where the legal rubber meets the road.
He’s also pro-choice for states on “gay marriage.” His crappy proposed constitutional amendment leaves the door wide open for states to violate the laws of nature and nature’s God if they see fit. A horrible notion. One that leaves us right back where this whole stinking mess started.
Sorry, I still say she should quit her job if she cannot comply with the job requirements - why pay her to do a job she cannot do ?
Apparently she has issued no marriage licenses for anyone since June - hetero or homo.
She had her assistants doing the same - and forced her beliefs onto them - now that she is gone, they are doing their job assignments and signing licenses. Maybe they were afraid she'd fire them.
She won't quit her 80k a year job.
The same sex couples won't go the next town over for their license.
Everyone’s looking to make a statement.
Just glad she isn't a Muslim looking to impose her beliefs - via her publicly funded job - on everyone else.
If she had a private business and didn't want to do business with particular people for whatever reasons, I would be 100% behind her.
But religious freedom is in our Constitution.
They’re probably trying to pass that law as we write.
She’s elected, so, the voters in that state get the final say.
LOL! Most of us "Trump backers" are really Cruz backers who have the capacity to recognize Trump's usefulness and validity as a choice if Cruz doesn't make it.
Many of us have made comment on this topic/case since it came out but have not tied it to any political candidate - let the candidates come out as they will.
Funny how one will go ballistic when one they don't like has yet to weigh in but care not about how their true enemies are weighing in. What's Hillary say? What's Jeb say"
Stay focused.
Instead of just spewing negative crap, how about making yourself useful:
She is an elected official.
Or as Bob Hope joked “He needed to get out of California before they made homosexuality mandatory”
Why should anyone be forced into unemployment when the gov. or a company orders them to do an aspect of a job that is immoral? Do you realize where this leads to? Certainly one should quit rather than do something immoral, but there is a case for refusing to obey radically unBiblical immoral, unconstitutional orders, whether they be Sharia law or those of a United States of Sodom. Including arresting Kim Davis.
The case of Kim Davis is rather unique, since she cannot be fired by the court, and the people who elected her are unlikely to impeach her, but are courts, as essential as they are and to which general obedience is enjoined, to be considered infallible so that they cannot be wrong in imprisoning and overruling sensible people, and thus all who oppose it should just quit?
Moreover, while you may uphold the right of business to choose customers, you are also advocating forced unemployment for multitudes. For together with the immoral trajectory of laws, where your "do whatever becomes your job or quit" train is headed to is a land in which no conservative of convictions and will as Kim's could work for the gov., and increasingly in businesses, as part of the job you are paid to do is to affirm what God condemns. p>The agenda of homosexual activists is that everyone must affirm their sin, even if it is by pressuring employees to do so in order to be a “team player,” meaning if you do not then it will negatively affect how the company sees you.
President Barack Obama “strongly objects” to provisions in a House defense authorization bill that would protect military chaplains who refuse to perform gay marriage ceremonies against their religious beliefs. When soldiers can be directed to participate in such thing as Sexual Assault Awareness Month events which include "Walk a Mile in Her Shoes" then you can imagine what is next. Police can be compelled to imprison American citizens for political correctness. That is just part of the type of thing that the USS (United States of Sodom) will be heading to, whether you belief it or not.
When expressing certain conservative views as JR does are outlawed, should every government employee be forced into unemployment who is charged with enforcing compliance and penalizing those who do not, since they are being paid to do so. For that matter, one may feel compelled to choose to leave the country when it compels universal assent to perversity.
No doubt some would say that holy Daniel of the OT should have gone into hiding rather than openly practice his faith, contrary to the new law and which was esp. expected of a gov. employee to obey, but instead he ended up in the lions den.
I can see the say when what recently happened in NJ , in which judges are instructed to "instantly remove any jurors who display conscious or subconscious racist beliefs" (talk about subjectivity) will be applied to those who display subconscious aversions to homosexuality.
Apparently she has issued no marriage licenses for anyone since June - hetero or homo.
Where do you see that?
She had her assistants doing the same - and forced her beliefs onto them - now that she is gone, they are doing their job assignments and signing licenses. Maybe they were afraid she'd fire them.
Rather, like any employee, they were choosing to follow leadership, and had recourse to higher jurisdiction if they objected, and we have zero evidence that they did, or were in danger of losing their jobs, which considering her opposition is frankly absurd. Now they are still choosing to follow leadership, but this time it is clear that they will lose their jobs - or worse - if they do not, as recourse to higher jurisdiction would lead to that.
Thus if there is any evidence that they are being compelled to do anything out of fear of losing their jobs then it is now!
She won't quit her 80k a year job.
So her motive is money? That would be low, and if that was the case then she would compromise. But why not value a job that she certainly was qualified for in experience?
Just glad she isn't a Muslim looking to impose her beliefs - via her publicly funded job - on everyone else.
I need to check and make sure I am not on salon.com or the Huffington Post! Refusing to be part of the radical redefinition of marriage is no more imposing beliefs on others than refusing to sign off on abortions or kill Jews. Soldiers are also on the public payroll.
Moreover, all moral laws are imposition of beliefs, including making it a criminal offense not to affirm sodomy. And as your taxes are used for this then that is also an imposition of beliefs. The judgments of the Founders and hence the Constitution is a result of beliefs, which flowed from religion. And the laws reflected the general religious beliefs of them and the people, who elect its interpreters.
Yet SOTUS is sppsd to judge according to the intent of them, which i can assured you cannot be construed into mandating every state recognize sodomic "marriage as a Constitutional right, or else. And which will lead to every employee of the gov., and its contractors, and every business, being subject to penalties for not affirming it.
And overall it is sad that you express contempt of this hero of conviction.
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September 3, 2015 | Jim Robinson
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2015 5:39:43 PM by Jim Robinson
I stand with Kim Davis! I will not comply!
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I'd be interested to hear how to compromise with a government entity that can exercise absolute power.
In the military it is called Conscientious Objecting
Be like Nancy and Just Say NO!
Nope; calling the tail a leg doesn't make it into one.
It is a mere PRIVLEGE of the court at this present time. It CAN reverse itself.
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