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1935 Labor Day Hurricane: Hemingway Slammed New Deal Ineptitude
NewsBusters ^ | September 7, 2015 | P.J. Gladnick

Posted on 09/07/2015 2:17:45 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

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To: Moonman62
On September 2, 1935, Labor Day, the hurricane reached a peak intensity of 892 mb.

I wonder how that measurement was made?

A barometer at the scene--I don't know how it could have survived--at one point read 26.35 inches of mercury, the lowest barometric pressure ever recorded on a land-based barometer. At the time, there were probably not a whole lot of metric barometers in this country, and I doubt if there were any at the scene.

21 posted on 09/07/2015 4:34:20 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: thackney

I’ve seen some Jamaican sharks’-oil gauges that are sworn to be accurate... they’ve used them even after mercury was harnessed.


22 posted on 09/07/2015 4:43:34 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: PJ-Comix

The Labor Day Hurricane caused massive amounts of destruction and had a fairly high death toll. This image shows men standing near a large stack of coffins during the cleanup following the storm. Source: Florida State Archives

23 posted on 09/07/2015 4:48:30 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: PJ-Comix; flaglady47; Chigirl 26; seekthetruth; 3D-JOY; seenenuf; Bob Ireland; ken5050; ...
Hemingway and I graduated from the same high school (in Oak Park, Illinois). Not at the same time, though, lol...he was born in 1899.

After graduating he immediately left town and voted never to return to the upscale but rather staid and unexciting suburb just west of Chicago.

He never did return except for one family member's funeral.

Then he was off to the Spanish Civil War, the bull fights, the plane crashes, the four wives, the Normandy landings, the Liberation of Paris, the Key West deep-sea fishing and six-toed pet cats, the alcoholism...and then the suicide.

I never cared all that much for his novels, many of them a little too tedious for me. But the magnificent story lines he wove made some of the most fascinating, captivating, colorful, exciting and popular movies in cinema annals.

I've seen every Hemingway film at one time or another, and loved them all. The greatest stars of the Golden Age of Movies were in every one of them!

Leni

24 posted on 09/07/2015 4:50:35 PM PDT by MinuteGal (It's Not "Immigration", Stupid....IT'S INVASION !")
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To: GeronL
September 8, 1900

I didn't even know they HAD climate change back then!!!

25 posted on 09/07/2015 4:53:23 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Rockingham

The lack of evacuation of the Keys in general and of the Vets in particular was due to the poor forecast by the U.S. Weather Bureau, which did not recognize the devastating strength of the storm and wrongly forecast that it would hit Cuba instead of the Keys. In fairness to the Weather Bureau, hurricane forecasting was then in its infancy, and even today, hurricane forecasting has a residual element of uncertainty as to strength and track that can have tragic consequences.

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Hemingway’s point was that they shouldn’t have been there at all during the hurricane months of August, September, and October.


26 posted on 09/07/2015 4:54:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Fiji Hill; thackney

OK, but they say the measurement was made before landfall. Was the barometer on a buoy, or what?


27 posted on 09/07/2015 4:58:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

http://bermudasun.bm/Content/HURRICANE-WATCH/Hurricane-Watch/Article/Using-shark-oil-to-keep-tabs-on-Igor/149/906/48088

....Although her barometer showed no change yesterday, Mrs. Chameau said the telltale signs would only reveal themselves as a hurricane came within 200 miles.

Google sharks oil barometer

28 posted on 09/07/2015 5:19:07 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Rockingham
In fairness to the Weather Bureau, hurricane forecasting was then in its infancy, and even today, hurricane forecasting has a residual element of uncertainty as to strength and track that can have tragic consequences.

You might say just like climatology today?
29 posted on 09/07/2015 5:20:35 PM PDT by klgator
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To: Moonman62
OK, but they say the measurement was made before landfall. Was the barometer on a buoy, or what?

That is possible. Maritime barometers are built to withstand a lot of abuse, even the shiny brass one on the wall of the captain's cabin.

There were spring-wound recording barometers back then, that printed out readings at certain time increments on a roll of paper. The Navy certainly could've put something like that in a buoy.

30 posted on 09/07/2015 5:37:16 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Moonman62

Ships? UnfortunTe ships?

Or perhaps that was the measurement on land while the eye was still offshore?


31 posted on 09/07/2015 5:47:02 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Labor_Day_hurricane_1935-09-04_weather_map.gif


32 posted on 09/07/2015 5:55:03 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Fiji Hill; Charles Martel; thackney; txhurl

Well, I found out where the barometric reading was taken, at what’s now known as Craig Key, a small island constructed for the railroad. The reading was either taken out in the open or in a dry docked boat, according to two different accounts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Key

And at the following link the measurement is described in item 7.

http://www.keyshistory.org/35-hurr-war-dept.html


33 posted on 09/08/2015 6:16:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

Interesting, thanks


34 posted on 09/08/2015 7:05:12 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: GeronL

My great-grandmother perished in that storm.


35 posted on 09/08/2015 8:35:25 PM PDT by ru4liberty (Trump's age: chronological = 69 YO; emotional = 12 YO. Frickin' embarrassing!)
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