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No Movement That Embraces Trump Can Call Itself Conservative
National Review ^ | 09/05/2015 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 09/07/2015 3:40:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: dervish

His last big speech. Try paying attention.


81 posted on 09/07/2015 4:53:42 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Trump phenomenon is a direct creation of the GOPe. Until they understand that, they’ll keep losing.

They thought they could tell the base to sit down and shut up.

What idiot candidate from the GOPe said at the beginning of his campaign that he didn’t need the base of the party?

Corporate lobbyists have taken complete control of the party.


82 posted on 09/07/2015 4:56:30 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP Establishment, and Jonah Goldberg is one of them, just do not get it.

Americans are SICK AND TIRED of Washington politicians. They have lied and deceived and played games for their own personal power and wealth. We are tired of being betrayed and looked down at.

WE. ARE. SICK. OF. IT.

That is why Trump and Carson are riding to the top. And the GOP Establishment just does not get it.


83 posted on 09/07/2015 4:57:24 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Oklahoma

Calling people “cultists” for passionately supporting a candidate isn’t exactly rational either.


84 posted on 09/07/2015 4:58:11 PM PDT by proust
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

At some point they are all going to have to come around to acceptance as Trump will likely win a general election in a landslide.


85 posted on 09/07/2015 4:58:37 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: dervish

Trump’s real life accomplishments reduce the political posturings of those apparatchiks to mere flea hopping. None of the professional politicians can point to -squat- for real accomplishments.


86 posted on 09/07/2015 5:00:15 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: niteowl77

Beautiful. Prost!


87 posted on 09/07/2015 5:01:47 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: rarestia
It is possible to be a true conservative and a Trump supporter, if you are thinking strategically. We need Trump to win, to take out the GOPe, end political correctness, and do what needs to be done about this massive illegal immigration. With the GOPe gone, and control of the party returned to the people, then we conservatives (we who believe in the classic liberalism of our founders) can restore our beloved constitutional republic. There are those of us who are truly conservative and believe that the election of Donald Trump is the necessary first step.
88 posted on 09/07/2015 5:02:30 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: onyx

I do delight in who he has for enemies. It speaks well for him.


89 posted on 09/07/2015 5:03:21 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump does not have a well-thought out, consistent conservative philosophy like Bill Buckley, Barry Goldwater, or Ted Cruz. What he does have is a way of making headlines and galvanizing attention. And he has used that to bring to the fore the immigration crisis that threatens to take us down. For that, I offer my heart felt gratitude and thanks to Trump.

It appears no one else was willing or inclined to do that.


90 posted on 09/07/2015 5:06:58 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Been shown repeatedly that Mittens would not have won with 70% of the “Hispanic vote”. What killed)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That is the purpose of the primarys.
I just left a thread trying to advise a fellow Cruz supporter that Cruz is not attacking Trump.
I sure wish some Trump supporters would return the same courtesy. I am not really pointing at you as a severe violator.
I have my history too. LOL


91 posted on 09/07/2015 5:07:24 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Psalm 144

It’s quite possible that the 2016 race will be between Trump and Sanders, and the pundit class - whether R or D - can’t stand it. Things are not under their control!!! The media want to decide who the candidates will be!!!


92 posted on 09/07/2015 5:08:56 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: SeekAndFind

Jonah Goldberg is a homosexual.


93 posted on 09/07/2015 5:09:33 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Sanders/Cruz in 2016!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I think this is what has them (and some people here) going stark raving mad. They are pushing the old buttons and pulling the old levers and... nothing is working the way it used to. To them it is as if the rules of physics suddenly stopped working. I saw this in the faces of communists in Russia in 1991. Their world no longer made sense to them anymore.


94 posted on 09/07/2015 5:13:05 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sorry Jonah I am tired of losing, I am tired of being lied to, I am tired of having the inside the beltway Jackass’ like you foisting upon us Limp Wristed RINO’s who Lie, I am tired of the Republican Party and it's Leaders being Liars and Corrupt, Frankly Jonah I am tired of Lying POS’ like you who think your “Opinion” really matters and your Poop Doesn't Stink.

So maybe Trump isn't as Conservative as I would like but at least he is a Winner and he seems to care. He might not be able to do all he says but like Reagan he just might be able to Slow the Train down and accomplish two or three things that might make a difference.

95 posted on 09/07/2015 5:14:19 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Sorry Jonah I am tired of losing, I am tired of being lied to ....

I understand perfectly why you feel that way, but let's be honest, you're not much of a conservative, are you?

96 posted on 09/07/2015 5:19:36 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Sanders/Cruz in 2016!)
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To: BruceS
These are things that he has talked about that needs to be done....what about your candidate? Has he/she said how, what, why, when, how much money, etc?

When is your candidate going to start to begin? Tomorrow, maybe? If not, why not?

Details matter, so tell me about your candidate, what is he/she going to start to compromise with what ever party? What is your candidate going to give to planned parenthood, to the washington cartel, to the msm, to the talking heads, to the spineless sissies we have now? to the lobbyists, to the super pacs, promises they are making, how is all that going to be done....details matter, lets hear em!

97 posted on 09/07/2015 5:20:09 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ("It's the hard working, tax paying citizens of the United States that are suffering..."Go TRUMP 2016)
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To: dervish

Yep, words, what about your candidate???

Oh yeah, forgot they don’t talk do they?


98 posted on 09/07/2015 5:21:10 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ("It's the hard working, tax paying citizens of the United States that are suffering..."Go TRUMP 2016)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I agree. Great point.


99 posted on 09/07/2015 5:23:13 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Recall Gov. Nikki Haley, aka Nimrata Randhawa)
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To: SeekAndFind
No Movement That Embraces Trump Can Call Itself Conservative

While we're on the subject, Jonah cannot truthfully call himself conservative.

100 posted on 09/07/2015 5:23:57 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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