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Donald Trump, Crony Capitalist
Pajamas Media ^ | 09/15/2015 | Rick Moran

Posted on 09/15/2015 10:11:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Red Steel
Gary Busey gif here...

Ask and you shall receive:

CALLING all TRUMP HATERS!!

it's FEEDING TIME!!!
61 posted on 09/15/2015 11:24:28 AM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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To: driftless2
While unlimited immigration will destroy this country, there's a host of other issues that will contribute mightly to that as well.

Nothing comes close to immigration, it is the defining issue of our time.

62 posted on 09/15/2015 11:27:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

They all went to court and Trump lost (according to your post). If he wanted the land but the courts denied it to him, then, according to the rules (i.e., law). Therefore, everyone played by the rules.

Your attempt to paint The Donald as a shyster, instead of a smart businessman isn’t very convincing.

Donald Trump is a man who knows who he is, knows what he wants, and knows how to get it. He can and will do what it takes to win.

And we haven’t had a winner in the White House for a long, long time.


63 posted on 09/15/2015 11:31:50 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

I meant to say that Trump wanted the land, the issue was taken to court, the ruling was that he could not buy it. Therefore everyone did play by the rules, including Trump.


64 posted on 09/15/2015 11:34:21 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: mkjessup

LoL.


65 posted on 09/15/2015 11:35:56 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: SeekAndFind
We have 15 others on the campaign.

Of which only 1 is an actual Conservative, with the rest being CoC RINO plants. Vote for that? Lol. Might as well vote for the dummycrat. We need Trump to finish off the GOP, and Cruz to rebuild. Those are the only 2 on the ticket, far as I'm concerned.

66 posted on 09/15/2015 11:41:50 AM PDT by dware (Trump/Cruz 2016, or get ready for 8 more dummycrat years)
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To: central_va
That is what Trump is counting on...all his supporters will forget about or make little of the other issues. I mean, who cares about abortion, businesses taking property from home owners, affirmative discrimination action, tariffs that could depress the economy...you know...trivial things like that. All the the things Trump supports
67 posted on 09/15/2015 11:50:04 AM PDT by driftless2 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Skelton_Knaggs.gif)
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To: driftless2
tariffs that could depress the economy

Whose economy, Chinas?

68 posted on 09/15/2015 11:52:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tupelo
I searched high and low, near and far. But nowhere could I find any evidence of Trump casting a single vote to give taxpayer money to himself or anyone else.

Straw man argument. The fact is that Trump is quite open about being a crony capitalist. He freely admits to buying politicians and using government to limit competition and enrich himself. And Trump supporters either refuse to believe, or just don't care.

At least if you know and don't care, that is an informed choice. You have accepted that Trump is not a conservative, but he is against illegals, or is taking down "the establishment", or on whatever your pet issue may be, he agrees with you.

My biggest problem is the Trump supporters that want to insist that despite his years of crony capitalism, his open support of single payer, his past support of other positions that would cause these same supporters to immediately brand any other candidate as a "RINO", that Trump REALLY IS a conservative, and will govern as one if we just elect him.

Trump is not a conservative. He is a populist with some conservative positions, but if you think Trump will shrink government, will overturn Obamacare or reduce entitlement spending, will make conservative picks to SCOTUS, etc., then you are deluding yourselves. Nothing in his history supports that. If all you care about is immigration, Trump is your guy.

69 posted on 09/15/2015 11:54:21 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
OH, for a minute there I thought you said what he did was legal...as in, within the law....my bad.

There are a lot of things that are legal that are not moral, ethical or conservative. If we are only to judge a candidate by what is legal, that is a very low bar to clear.

70 posted on 09/15/2015 11:57:01 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: WKTimpco
But the list, even if 100% accurate, does not make Trump a crony capitalist.

Obviously, you didn't watch the first debate. Trump very directly said that he gave donations to politicians so that they would owe him, so they would do what he wanted. IOW, he was getting people elected that craft laws or intervene to benefit his companies.

71 posted on 09/15/2015 12:03:32 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: SeekAndFind

Donald Trump, Crony Capitalist.........sure does beat a commie, thug, socialist, liberal, anti American.


72 posted on 09/15/2015 12:07:08 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: CA Conservative
... but if you think Trump will shrink government, will overturn Obamacare or reduce entitlement spending, will make conservative picks to SCOTUS, etc., then you are deluding yourselves.

My biggest problem with Trump bashers is the supercilious assurance they attach to their own prognostications.

None of these candidates are absolutely predictable, but those with TDS seem to think their "glass half-empty" constructions are the ONLY acceptable way to view semi-loaded water vessels.

73 posted on 09/15/2015 12:09:35 PM PDT by papertyger (Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui neat. / Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies)
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To: CA Conservative

Like a purity test? Great bar to set, high or low.


74 posted on 09/15/2015 12:14:31 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

That’s not how it worked. Trump wanted the land, so he offered to buy it. The homeowner said no. So, Trump went to his buddies (cronies?) in local government, and had them seize the land for Trump.

Then, the homeowner sued, and the court found that Trump and the government had exceeded their authority by seizing the land.

But, again, you seem to think that it’s OK that Trump tried to use the government to take property from someone who didn’t want to sell it to him, because the court stopped him??? The whole point is that his effort alone exposes him for what he is - a statist thug.

Oh, and again, you keep saying Trump is a winner and gets what he wants. But he didn’t here. He lost. So, in this case he was a statist loser thug. (And, for what it’s worth, the casino for which he was trying to acquire the land failed — how the hell does a WINNER fail at running a casino?!?!?)


75 posted on 09/15/2015 12:16:23 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: kenmcg

With the possible exception of commie, though, Trump is all of those things, too.


76 posted on 09/15/2015 12:17:47 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Like a purity test? Great bar to set, high or low.

I'm sure Bernie Sanders could probably clear the bar of having done nothing illegal, but I wouldn't vote for him either.

77 posted on 09/15/2015 12:19:39 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
And many people will say the same thing of all the other candidates. Notice how AFTER they get Trump to pledge no 3rd party, the talking points become 3rd party if Trump gets the nod?

If it's sensed that Trump was taken out with cheap infighting, you can be your a$$ the voters will stay home again. The only saving grace would be a combination of Cruz and Trump on a ticket.

78 posted on 09/15/2015 12:23:06 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: papertyger
My biggest problem with Trump bashers is the supercilious assurance they attach to their own prognostications.

I think past behavior is a good indication of future behavior. So I see no reason based on Trump's history to believe he would govern in a conservative manner overall. He would be conservative on some issues, liberal on others. It all depends upon which position benefited him the most, I think. Or to give him the benefit of the doubt, it would depend on what position he thought benefited the country the most - but that position could be conservative or liberal.

79 posted on 09/15/2015 12:24:24 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Notice how AFTER they get Trump to pledge no 3rd party, the talking points become 3rd party if Trump gets the nod?

As far as I know, that was only Bill Kristol saying that. While I won't vote for Trump in the general, I wouldn't vote for the Dem or vote third party. I would just concentrate on state and local races.

If it's sensed that Trump was taken out with cheap infighting,

There is going to be infighting. That is politics. Trump bashes other candidates in a very personal manner - do you really think no one will fight back? And if the attacks work and Trump loses the nomination, how is that any different than Trump attacking Bush and making him lose the nomination? It all depends upon which attacks are the most effective.

80 posted on 09/15/2015 12:29:42 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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