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ISIS Supporters: Syria Will Be A "Graveyard For Russians"
vocativ.com/ ^ | Sep 21, 2015 at 11:39 AM | Gilad Shiloach and Vladi Vovcuk

Posted on 09/23/2015 12:47:10 PM PDT by Trumpinator

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To: MarvinStinson

Sorry, ISIS. That scenario has only happened once.

To a group of American college hockey players in 1980.


41 posted on 09/23/2015 1:36:17 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ohioan
I want them both to suffer catastrophic losses fighting each other. ISIS deservedly gets the headlines with its beheadings, etc. while Putin seizes Crimea and eastern Ukraine and threatens the Baltics and Poland in service of his dream of recreating Greater Russia.
42 posted on 09/23/2015 1:36:59 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Mastador1
By 1979, the USSR was run by old bureaucrats who didn't have much interest in winning the war in Afghanistan. They never really went all-in.

Putin sees a lot of upside to establishing a strong Middle East presence. Imagine the pressure he'll be able to put on Europe with energy supplies if he is working closely with Iran, once they have been freed of sanctions.

It's almost like the US has given them the rope on which to hang us.

43 posted on 09/23/2015 1:38:35 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Trumpinator

Putin operates like Patton did ...not like Obama does...


44 posted on 09/23/2015 1:41:06 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Trumpinator

The Russians will cut them down immediately. ISIS is going back home to Saudi Arabia, Paris, and Portland.


45 posted on 09/23/2015 1:45:27 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Trumpinator

If Russia is smart, they will go for a quick and overwhelming victory. Do not give the terrorists time to learn how to kill Russians, and do not give them time to learn how to survive against Russian tanks and helicopters. Just hit them with artillery, missiles, shells, mortars, and lots of bombs anywhere they congregate in large enough numbers to be militarily significant. Leave ISIS so dispersed that Assad can take back his country, and then go home before the Russians can be targeted effectively.


46 posted on 09/23/2015 1:47:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: MarvinStinson

The Mujihadeen were considered JV during the 80’s.


47 posted on 09/23/2015 1:49:39 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring

Russia had weaker leaders then.

Putin is different.


48 posted on 09/23/2015 1:50:39 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Pollster1

Absolutely. Smash and leave.


49 posted on 09/23/2015 1:55:08 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Let he who pays no taxes also not vote.)
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To: DesertRhino

ISIS is going to get introduced to Mr. SU-25.


50 posted on 09/23/2015 2:01:36 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Mastador1
I’m still talking about the shellacking the Russians took in Afghanistan, you see I’m still on the same subject.

Some say that is overstated.

The lost worst in the first Chechen war. They held their own in Afghanistan because the local Afghans did most of the fighting. They became the Northern Alliance after the Soviets left.

51 posted on 09/23/2015 2:10:54 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Pollster1
Russia's plan is to probably serve as the protector of the Alawites and Christians who live on the Syrian coast rather than fight to take over all of Syria. They will back Assad to do that but if that fails they have a pretty good defensible coastal position with a loyal population as a buffer.

If Assad falls Syria is dismembered into warlord factions and Russia controls the sweetest spot.

52 posted on 09/23/2015 2:14:21 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Ohioan
Why would you not root for the Russians over ISIS?

At least, as Sting put it, The Russians love their children, too.

53 posted on 09/23/2015 2:15:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Excellent word to use in this case.


54 posted on 09/23/2015 2:17:36 PM PDT by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: Trumpinator

Still not totally used to the idea of pulling for the Russians but reports like this help.


55 posted on 09/23/2015 2:24:00 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: Trumpinator

Gog vs Magog?


56 posted on 09/23/2015 2:29:40 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: bk1000

I don’t know but maybe investing in a bunker is not a bad idea...........


57 posted on 09/23/2015 2:31:51 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator

How many in ISIS are Russian Nationals amid all of this bravado for Russia? Quite a few, actually. I hope the country stays safe. http://www.rferl.org/archive/under-the-black-flag/latest/17257/17257.html


58 posted on 09/23/2015 2:34:16 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
Mostly Chechens who fled their country. ISIS' top military commander is a Chechen from Georgia - sadly trained by the USA as a special forces operator.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/middle-east/article35322882.html

U.S. training helped mold top Islamic State military commander

59 posted on 09/23/2015 2:36:30 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Still not totally used to the idea of pulling for the Russians but reports like this help.
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Wait till the ‘fired US Military types’ form a brigade ala ‘Lafayette Escadrille’ or ‘Flying Tigers’ and help Russia..


60 posted on 09/23/2015 2:42:24 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"I start feeling that IÂ’m Diagonally Parked In A Parallel Universe".)
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