Posted on 09/25/2015 6:47:20 AM PDT by Red Badger
Who did the computer programming?........................Oh, some guy named ‘Fritz’ from Wolfsburg...................
Yes I saw that. When the EPA rules that owners of VW diesels will have to scrap their cars or pay a hugh carbon tax you would be a fool to buy one even if it has a guarantee. VW may be killed as a company from this. In any case seriously wounded. Volvo doesn’t have the depth of VW and was almost finished a few years ago.
Heard a similar story from a former neighbor from the UK who had worked on BMWs there..................
IMHO, the last good BMW was the 2002Tii with a stick...
How about Land Rovers?
One of my biggest mistakes in life was buying a normal 2002 instead of the Tii.
Still, with a few mods, that was a pretty quick car.
Has anyone had the stones to publicly state that perhaps the problem is the EPA standards, not the vehicles’ performance?
Nah, all liberals know that the laws of physics are easily adjusted with the proper regulations.
See post #6.................
OOPS!..See post #11.................
They think that way. Such militant ignorance is hard to deal with. I once got into a "discussion" with some lame brain here on FR who was convinced that there were such things as 100mpg carburetors. When I told him that the laws of thermodynamics precluded the existence of something like that he said well that's just your opinion, and insisted that his opinion was a good as mine - mainly because he didn't have a clue about energy and the first and second laws. Well it wasn't my opinion it was the first and second law, and his ideas were just flat out wrong, but he was too set in his ideas to admit that someone else might know more about than he did. I gave up.
So, if BMW is off the table, what does your mechanic friend suggest people buy?
However, now that Volvo is part of the Geely Automotive Group from China, they finally have the money to develop really advanced engine technologies. Their new highly-advanced turbodiesel engine is because the Geely money made it possible to finish development of that engine.
But..if you want to still "eat your heart out" read the 1972 Car & Driver review/road test of the 2002Tii
It would be hard to find anyone who actually had experience with a 100 mpg carburetor. But on the whole I agree. I don’t argue with creationists, bushbots (they’ve kind of gone away) and other similar types that show up here.
Sadly, this may not be satire.
And even worse, by waiting a bit too long, I got hit with a 15% price increase, so I ended up paying more for a regular 1973 2002 than what the tii cost in 1972.
Sure did have fun with that car though!
How bad can they really be?
I'd sure like to know what "pollutant" they are exceeding by 11x.
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