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We Lost Our Daughter to a Mass Shooter and Now Owe $203,000 to His Ammo Dealer
huffingtonpost.com ^ | 9/25/2015 | Lonnie and Sandy Phillips

Posted on 09/26/2015 9:34:38 AM PDT by rktman

We have been getting a lot of questions about our lawsuit against Lucky Gunner, the online company that sold ammunition to the man who murdered our daughter Jessica along with 11 others in an Aurora, Colorado, theater. Especially after the Rachel Maddow Show covered us twice, people ask us about the judge's order that we pay Lucky Gunner's attorneys' fees, since our lawsuit was unsuccessful.

We brought our lawsuit because we thought it was outrageous that companies could sell a dangerous man an arsenal without getting any information about him, and without making any effort to see if he was a dangerous killer -- which he was. When the killer had left a voicemail with a shooting range, the range operator knew that he was bad news and shouldn't be given access to guns. But these companies set up their business so people just like this killer can arm themselves at the click of a mouse. We wanted to change that. And we still do.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; liberalagenda; momunists
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To: Heart of Georgia
I have sympathy for them in the death of their child, but the outcome of the lawsuit is as it should be.

I think their attorney and the judge should have given them better advice. The judge should have tossed it right off the bat instead of letting the lawsuit go forward.

Their attorney should have told them that they were going to get into a heap of hurt if they pressed forward with the case.

I think it is unfair to them that they have been so badly led by the legal people who should have explained to them what was likely to happen.

I think that they did this because it made them feel like they were giving something to their daughter, but they should have been better advised by their counsel who did not have an emotional involvement in the case.

61 posted on 09/26/2015 10:27:58 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: exDemMom

Not to mention, in some states, they are spreading the net wide as to who is mentally ill or disordered. A vet sought treatment for depression after his wife died, and LE showed up at his home to confiscate his weapons under the pretext that as a mentally ill vet, he might go off on people.

This same government can’t be bothered to check illegal aliens for diseases formerly unknown in this country, and keep them out, or in some school districts, require the lice-ridden children of the illegals to show vaccination records before they can attend (but the children of citizens still have to show them, even though they’re much less likely to have some exotic disease or some super-virulent strain of TB, etc, and can just sit next to your kid and cough Super TB all over them, or give them lice. They showed pictures of some of the illegal kids, the lice were just crawling down their faces, it was that bad, and it honestly didn’t appear to faze them).


62 posted on 09/26/2015 10:28:26 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rktman

They’re using their daughter’s dead body to promote the deaths of more innocents. Sick!


63 posted on 09/26/2015 10:29:13 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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To: Vaquero

I am grateful, so grateful, that so far, when our God-given rights are being wrested from us one after the other, He has so far kept His hand of protection on our Second Amendment right. There must be a reason for that, besides the obvious.


64 posted on 09/26/2015 10:32:40 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Do we know what the lawyers told them?


65 posted on 09/26/2015 10:34:05 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: dennisw

They were just a tool that got used. The ones who intimated that they should sue the ammo seller and no where to be found and won’t cover the counter award.


66 posted on 09/26/2015 10:36:36 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Trump/Cruz 2016 or the other way around.)
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To: rktman

Sue your lawyers! They filed this stupid lawsuit and they should have known better.

Don’t bitch about the fees you were told to pay. Make your lawyers pay it.

I don’t think you will have a hard time finding a lawyer to take your case. It’s probably a slam dunk.


67 posted on 09/26/2015 10:38:13 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: Heart of Georgia
I have sympathy for them in the death of their child, but the outcome of the lawsuit is as it should be.

Well said.

Ditto.

68 posted on 09/26/2015 10:39:20 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: MamaB

Do we know what the lawyers told them?
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I don’t know how these “loser pays” laws are structured but I hope that the losing attorneys have to participate in paying for the defendant’s attorney fees or perhaps pay them all. If the “contingency” fee the plaintiffs’ attorney would have paid their attorneys had they prevailed was 35%, then those attorneys should bear at least 35% of the loser pays costs. Better yet, make the attorneys pay 100% of those “loser pays” costs. That would cut down on these wasteful, frivolous lawsuits.


69 posted on 09/26/2015 10:40:52 AM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: rktman

If they get fat, they can sue silverware makers.


70 posted on 09/26/2015 10:41:41 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: rktman

lol

stupid idiots, that would be like suing crate and barrel for selling a murderer a knife without first having done a background check on him!

lol

I hope they go bankrupt.


71 posted on 09/26/2015 10:42:41 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: exDemMom
Instead of suing the shop that sold the ammo, how about activating against the laws that make stopping a violently mentally ill person almost impossible to do before the fact?

Because that's pre-crime law, and it's more dangerous than the problem it's trying to fix.

72 posted on 09/26/2015 10:43:09 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: nhwingut
I would never mock someone who lost their child. I can’t imagine the grief. It’s sad that during a vulnerable time in their life they were conned by these ambulance chasers. Their lawyers should have to pay up.

You are right. I don't blame them for wanting to do something - anything - to make their daughter's death have some meaning. Their lawyers and a bunch of sniveling gun grabbers convinced them to go forward with a frivolous lawsuit and now they have been ordered to pay the other party's attorney fees.

They should sue their lawyers. I'm sure that if they contacted the NRA they could get a referral to a lawyer who would gladly sue the bastards on their behalf.

73 posted on 09/26/2015 10:43:12 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: Daveinyork

They should be suing the Democratic party for limiting access to the guns that would have possibly enabled someone else in the theater to fight back.


74 posted on 09/26/2015 10:46:19 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: rktman

Yes it appears they let their grief make them vulnerable to people with an agenda.

The only person responsible for the shooting of their child is the shooter.


75 posted on 09/26/2015 10:47:43 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: rktman

Did they also sue the car manufacturer of the car he drove? Of the shoes he wore? Of his clothing? Idiots!


76 posted on 09/26/2015 10:48:08 AM PDT by gtwizard
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To: rktman

Ha Ha. Pay up commie!


77 posted on 09/26/2015 10:50:47 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: rktman

simple question:

“When has Webster’s Dictionary been changed, to where the storage of ‘ammunition’, became an ‘arsenal’?

In all my civilian years, and all of my military years combined, the word ‘arsenal’ meant the place where WEAPONS were housed, maintained, and stored; and the term ‘ammunition dump’ meant just that - without the WEAPONS in the same location.

For all i know, ‘Lucky Gunner’ only sells ‘ammunition’, which is not a criminal offense, and they do and have followed commercial interstate regulations put in place by both State and federal authorities.

I see it as a crime, that these two morons, due to the actions of another moron, want to abridge MY rights, when i live in a different state than they do!


78 posted on 09/26/2015 10:52:21 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Parley Baer
Suing the ammunition supplier was a really dumb move because they had no real contribution to the crime.

If some thug stabs you, do you sue the maker of the knife?

The girls family should have sued the psychologists and the rest of the people who were well aware he had serious mental problems but did nothing.

79 posted on 09/26/2015 10:52:30 AM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Miller)
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To: Spok

It is really more like selling gasoline for a car to someone without checking his driving record, drinking habits and anger management issues.


80 posted on 09/26/2015 10:53:20 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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