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The Ideal GOP Ticket? What Some Canadians Think
Poletical ^ | October 1st, 2015 | Contributors

Posted on 10/01/2015 7:55:17 PM PDT by PingPongChampion

Donald Trump's number one qualification is that he is not a politician. He reminds us everyday and it's true. People may not like what he has to say or how he says it, but America needs Donald Trump. He and Ted Cruz have a similar plan to simplify the tax code, secure the border and make America an economic engine of the world. The two can unite the Tea Party movement and Trump alone can appeal to Democrat voters to beat Hillary Clinton. Recent polls have shown Trump appealing to voters of all stripes. Trump also has a tough foreign policy that establishment Republicans could learn to appreciate.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; canada; conservative; election2016; gop; newyork; republican; tedcruz; texas; trump
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To: PingPongChampion
Trump alone can appeal to Democrat voters to beat Hillary Clinton. Recent polls have shown Trump appealing to voters of all stripes.

True dat, but I think having Cruz as a running mate will hurt him with crossover Dems. The left absolutely hates Cruz with a burning passion (for reasons best left to God or Einstein).

Still, I think Trump/Cruz is the best possible combination of those standing for the office at this time, though Cruz might serve better as AG, Senate Majority Leader, or Supreme Court Justice.

21 posted on 10/01/2015 9:34:31 PM PDT by Windflier (The pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Impy
Cruz/Walker

You might just as well post, Cruz/GOPe Toady.

Same difference, and a terrible insult to Ted.

22 posted on 10/01/2015 9:37:30 PM PDT by Windflier (The pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Trump is the only candidate who can win in a landslide on the GOP side. And yes, Cruz is the right choice for VP on that ticket.

What some folks on our side don't get is, if you take Trump out of the equation, Cruz gets demolished by the establishment GOP machine.

Much as we bitter clingers love him, he doesn't yet have the kind of political weight, momentum, and inertia it takes to defeat the institutionalized gubmint cabal.

Cripes - he's only 44. My baby sis, who's ten years my junior, is eight years older than he is! The man has a long future ahead of him in Washington, and will have many other opportunities to vie for the top job.

23 posted on 10/01/2015 9:44:16 PM PDT by Windflier (The pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Starstruck
Cruz would never be able to get Trump to be #2 even though it would be a winning ticket.

What color is the sky in your universe? That ticket will never happen, and for good reason.

Trump (love him or hate him) is on the level of a Patton. The man has what's called 'command presence', which comes across to one and all.

He's never going to be anyone's #2 at this stage of his life, and at this moment in history. He'll go back to building skyscrapers before stooping to the VP level.

Cruz, on the other hand, will be VP, or he'll have to find some other position in a Trump administration. There is no path forward for him to win the nomination at this time. Perhaps in future, after the American public has become comfortable with him as VP for eight years, but not now. The polling numbers consistently show this to be the truth.

24 posted on 10/01/2015 9:53:20 PM PDT by Windflier (The pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

I think Cruz being suggested as a second banana for a reality tv star is the real insult.


25 posted on 10/01/2015 9:54:11 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

“I think Cruz being suggested as a second banana for a reality tv star is the real insult.”

Because Cruz as first banana can’t win. No star power and too wooden in presentation. As second banana or elected to the SCOTUS, he would be great.


26 posted on 10/01/2015 10:07:43 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: Windflier

What you said.
Some of these true-blue conservatives should be thanking him, not constantly backbitng. He’s ripping Demo-RINO buttocks. No one else was doing that except Cruz,and he wasn’t getting any traction.
So yeah, the outrage is getting, is tedious. Give it a rest, those of you so much more virtuous than ourselves.
Gratitude and patience are not only conservative traits, one is a cardinal virtue.


27 posted on 10/01/2015 10:12:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

Patience= prudence


28 posted on 10/01/2015 10:13:42 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Impy
I think Cruz being suggested as a second banana for a reality tv star is the real insult.

Check it out.....Ted Cruz was my first choice for prez in 2016, and he's the ONLY candidate I've ever donated money to.

That said, I had to separate my emotional attachment to him from my intellectual processes, to come to the place where I am now.

Frankly, we're facing something bigger than ideological purity right now. Under 'normal' circumstances, Cruz is the obvious choice, but the country is facing a crisis of existential proportions in this race.

If a Dem or a RINO is elected, the country's gone forever. They'll import and and rubber stamp so many millions of illegals, that a true conservative will never be elected again in this country. Ever. Heck, we'll probably never even see a RINO elected president again, it'll be that concrete of an electoral lock for the Dems.

The Uniparty is all in on this -- both sides. The red side of that party has gone full-tilt traitor to the people, and now has more allegiance to the U.S. Chamber of Crony Commerce, than it does to the Constitution or the people. They WANT "Hope & Change", because it's good for their bottom line - future of the country and the culture be damned.

Stop and look at Ted's numbers over the last three months. Turn off the emotional and turn on the intellectual. Examine his performance with the cold eye of a true conservative, and what do you see? You see a guy who's performing fair to middling at best, despite his exemplary qualifications.

Now, what does that tell you about the state of our world, and the dire situation we're actually in?

It tells you that millions of minds have processed all the available data, and have simultaneously come to the conclusion that we need a different kind of individual in the White House for the next four to eight years.

Someone who others will follow, as they put their boot up the ass of those who are destroying this country. Someone who already possesses the sort of command presence that the enemies of the republic fear and loathe. Someone who will begin tearing down the commie lib constructs from Day One in office.

My friend, the people have already deduced that that person is Donald Trump, and I agree.

29 posted on 10/01/2015 10:17:50 PM PDT by Windflier (The pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
My friend, the people have already deduced that that person is Donald Trump, and I agree.

According to the RCP average, 23% of "the people" have concluded that, Ben Carson is running 2nd at 16%. 4 months before the first vote is cast, the voice of the plurality means little to me. I don't trust him.

Turn off the emotional and turn on the intellectual.

I would advise Trump boosters to do just that. I see a lot of "F the GOPE bastards" emotion and positive reaction to Trump's pretty speeches and not a lot of thoughtfulness.

As to electibity, we're still in a pre-season. I ain't so certain that Trump's style is oh so electable and that Cruz's is not.

I could end up backing Trump if I feel he's the best choice that could win my state when the time comes. But case NOT closed because 23% say so in October.

30 posted on 10/01/2015 10:43:55 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: parksstp

>>>Trump is a clown programmed by people to say whatever he thinks will rile up the base<<<

Just who are these “people” you speak of? Sounds like an Opinion, but it isn’t a Fact without proof to back it up.

If you simply dislike Trump just say why and let people here either embrace or dismiss your concerns. Bringing some sort of Conspiracy Theory into this convinces nobody on FR.

I’m a Cruz Supporter BTW and I am hoping he will gain some traction after the 0% to 3% Candidates bite the dust. It’s a long process and I hope he can hang on.

Unfortunately, even though Cruz was the first one in, his numbers aren’t increasing and with that his Primary Electability will be in doubt. Remember, he is that Evil Right Winger that shut down the Compassionate Federal Government all by himself. Then he said Green Eggs and Ham on the Floor of the Deliberate Body, the U.S. Senate. LOL

The fact that both he and Trump are considered persona non grata by the GOPe Leadership, Democrat Leadership, Liberals and the Media makes both of them appealing Candidates to me.

That being said, at this point in time I would not hesitate to pull the lever for a Trump / Cruz Ticket. I think many Trump detractors underestimate Trump’s Leadership abilities.
He is far from the Clown that you think he is IMHO.


31 posted on 10/01/2015 10:49:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Missing Tagline. Reward for return.)
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To: parksstp
Trump is a clown programmed by people to say whatever he thinks will rile up the base.
President Cruz will pick a solid conservative as his VP. Trump will pick whomever Trump wants and nobody will be able to do a thing about it because it will be too late by then.
Cruz is the real deal. Trump is a charlatan.


So that is why solid conservatives like Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions, Sarah Palin all are in agreement that having Trump in the race is a good thing?

Sarah Palin said "thank God he's running!"

Mark Levin said that Trump's tax plan is "Great!"

Rush Limbaugh said that same tax plan is "Reagan-like"

So tell us genius, who are those 'people' who are 'programming' Trump? Karl Rove? Reince Preibus? Or some other anonymous sinister manipulator in the GOPe?

I suggest you ponder my tagline and show some class.
32 posted on 10/02/2015 1:17:40 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you really support Ted Cruz, don't be trashing Trump, Cruz doesn't, why should you?)
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To: Impy; GGpaX4DumpedTea
Passed right to work and crushed the union scum in Wisconsin is not my definition of “pansy-ass”.

No, but relying upon the advice and counsel of establishment RINOs in his campaign like Mrs. George Will IS.

That's one reason why he's no longer in the race.
33 posted on 10/02/2015 1:20:17 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you really support Ted Cruz, don't be trashing Trump, Cruz doesn't, why should you?)
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To: Starstruck
Trump would never pick Cruz as his #2.

You need to rethink that so far as electoral politics is concerned. Cruz locks in Texas' electoral votes which is substantial. Trump takes New York (believe that).

That spells "landslide" with or without California.
34 posted on 10/02/2015 1:22:54 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you really support Ted Cruz, don't be trashing Trump, Cruz doesn't, why should you?)
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To: Impy
I think Cruz being suggested as a second banana for a reality tv star is the real insult.

You mean that 'reality tv star' who is light years ahead of his rivals in the race for the nomination? The 'reality tv star' who comes up with tax proposals that are called "great" and "Reagan-like" by Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh respectively?

Or maybe you mean the 'reality tv star' of whom Sarah Palin said "thank God he's running!"?

As I have already suggested to another Trump-trasher, ponder my tagline.
35 posted on 10/02/2015 1:27:33 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you really support Ted Cruz, don't be trashing Trump, Cruz doesn't, why should you?)
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To: Impy
Turn off the emotional and turn on the intellectual.

I would advise Trump boosters to do just that. I see a lot of "F the GOPE bastards" emotion and positive reaction to Trump's pretty speeches and not a lot of thoughtfulness.


Reince Preibus and Karl Rove thank you for your "thoughtfulness".
36 posted on 10/02/2015 1:31:07 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you really support Ted Cruz, don't be trashing Trump, Cruz doesn't, why should you?)
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To: mkjessup

7 points ahead of Carson is a “lightyear”? That’s some weird math.

Is that the same Sarah Palin who supported John McCain in the 2010 Senate primary and liberal democrat endorsed Bill Walker for Governor of Alaska last year?

As for your tagline, because like I said, I don’t trust him. Nothing in his past makes me believe him that he’s a conservative.


37 posted on 10/02/2015 2:42:01 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

Carson is nothing but the GOPe flavor of the month and his numbers are soft and (IMHO) not sustainable.

So based upon Sarah Palin’s admittedly misguided loyalty to McCain (which I didn’t agree with either), that makes her a ‘Chump for Trump’ (to quote another Trump-hating poster who can’t see the forest for the trees)? As for Bill Walker in Alaska, that election had minimal impact on the rest of our 49 States.

As for not trusting Trump, had you been at the Cow Palace in ‘64 when Ronald Reagan gave his ‘A Time for Choosing’ speech, would you have been applauding (and trusting) or would you have been jeering ‘you used to be a liberal ‘Rat, get outta here!!’?

Just some food for thought.


38 posted on 10/02/2015 4:58:59 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you really support Ted Cruz, don't be trashing Trump, Cruz doesn't, why should you?)
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To: mkjessup

Trump/Cruz........

See I told you our Canadian neighbors to the north get it, too bad many here in American can’t see the light, at least not yet.


39 posted on 10/02/2015 5:28:07 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: DaveA37

The UniParty must die.

Trump/Cruz is the weapon needed to accomplish that.


40 posted on 10/02/2015 5:31:39 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you really support Ted Cruz, don't be trashing Trump, Cruz doesn't, why should you?)
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