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Putin has sent the feared Spetsnaz special forces into Syria to bail out Assad
http://www.mirror.co.uk/ ^ | 5 OCT 2015 | CHRIS HUGHES

Posted on 10/06/2015 12:47:12 AM PDT by 100American

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To: momincombatboots; ETL; SunkenCiv
@momincombatboots:
Not sure if this reporter is telling the truth... Would seem counterintuitive to send your troops to both sides to war against each other. Infiltrate their territory yes, fight against your own country, no. I doubt anyone is telling the truth anyway.

You could not have said it better. This is exactly what Kreml is aiming for.

1. Sending troops to both sides = The Soviet method of Provokatsiya http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/

2. I doubt anyone is telling the truth anyway.

Yes, this is the purpose of Soviet 2.0 propaganda, since they do not like the reality, make all doubt what is happening

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/apr/09/kremlin-hall-of-mirrors-military-information-psychology

If you prefer the Russian versions http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/apr/10/kremlin-hall-of-mirrors-peter-pomerantsev-long-read-russian-translation

41 posted on 10/06/2015 6:55:40 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Vermont Lt

Protection of Israel and location to Oil...

We have over 900 years of recoverable fuels, we do not need them


42 posted on 10/06/2015 8:43:41 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: AdmSmith; momincombatboots
1. Sending troops to both sides = The Soviet method of Provokatsiya http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/

From that link:

Understanding Provocation

March 29, 2014

One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya.

While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, there’s no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).

Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists [in this case, dupe actual Jihadis -ETL], turning them to your side.

When you’re dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isn’t often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they don’t exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.

While this isn’t a particularly nice technique, it works surprisingly well, particularly if you don’t care about bloody and messy consequences. ..."

http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/
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In other words, it's kind of like starting a fire, or better yet, pouring gasoline on a fire, in order to be a 'big hero', being first on the scene to put it out. Except in this case, you get to grab control over the buildings and town you helped 'saved' from the fire.

43 posted on 10/06/2015 8:52:39 AM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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