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The Russian navy created a de facto aerial defense zone to protect its Syria bases
Business Insider ^ | October 6, 2015 | Jeremy Bender

Posted on 10/06/2015 12:09:15 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

A large deployment of ships that Russia sent to the eastern Mediterranean under the guise of naval exercises at the end of September are actually being used to provide an aerial defense zone for Russian jets, Sam LaGrone reports for USNI News.

The "Black Sea-based Russian surface action group" in the eastern Mediterranean are based along Syria's coast by the Bassel al-Assad Airport and the Tartous naval facility, which is home to a Russian port.

The ships are intended to provide aerial defense for the Russian aircraft that Moscow is currently using to carry out airstrikes against Syrian rebels throughout the country.

Although not directly stated by official channels, the aerial defense zone is likely intended as defense against hypothetical US or coalition airstrikes against the Russian airstrips.

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To: Darteaus94025
Hmmm. Does ISIS have an air force? Nope.

Don't be so sure, they did use their air cover to disable Qaddafi's armored column so their ground troops could capture and kill him.

However, to be blunt, Russia is hardening against the US, NATO and Turkey.

Who would want to [and why]: ???

Ahhh, ...yep.

21 posted on 10/06/2015 12:37:46 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: McGruff
Is that you Senator McCarthy?

We need a guy like him more than ever today. You, as many here already know, are another big-time Putin defender and apologist. Why you creeps are allowed to remain on this site doing what you do is beyond my understanding.

22 posted on 10/06/2015 12:43:15 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: Navy Patriot
Soros supports ANTI-American groups and individuals. Not Anti-Putin groups and individuals. Putin is about as anti-American as it gets. He was that way long before his secret partner Obama emerged on the scene.

From a 2007 article titled "Putin's Russia"...

"KGB influence 'soars under Putin,' " blared the headline of a BBC online article for December 13, 2006. The following day, a similar headline echoed a similarly alarming story at the website of Der Spiegel, one of Germany's largest news magazines: "Putin's Russia: Kremlin Riddled with Former KGB Agents."

In the opening sentences of Der Spiegel's article, readers are informed that: "Four out of five members of Russia's political and business elite have a KGB past, according to a new study by the prestigious [Russian] Academy of Sciences. The influence of ex-Soviet spies has ballooned under President Vladimir Putin."

The study, which looked at 1,061 top Kremlin, regional, and corporate jobs, found that "78 percent of the Russian elite" are what are known in Russia as "siloviki," which is to say, former members of the KGB or its domestic successor, the FSB. The author of the study, Olga Kryshtanovskaya, expressed shock at her own findings. "I was very shocked when I looked at the boards of major companies and realized there were lots of people who had completely unknown names, people who were not public but who were definitely, obvious siloviki," she told Reuters.

Other supposed experts — in Russia and the West — have also expressed surprise and alarm at the apparent resurrection of the dreaded Soviet secret police. After all, for the past decade and a half these same experts have been pointing to the alleged demise of the KGB as the primary evidence supporting their claim that communism is dead.

From the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, the Russian security apparatus Cheka (and its later permutations: OGPU, NKVD, MGB, KGB) had been the "sword and shield" of the communist world revolution.

"We stand for organized terror," declared Felix Dzerzhinsky, the first chief of the Cheka for Soviet dictator Vladimir Lenin. In 1918, Dzerzhinsky launched the campaign of arrests and executions known as the Red Terror. Krasnaya Gazeta, the Bolshevik newspaper, expressed the Chekist credo when it reported approvingly in 1918 of the terror campaign: "We will make our hearts cruel, hard and immovable, so that no mercy will enter them, and so that they will not quiver at the sight of a sea of enemy blood."

Unflinching cruelty and merciless, bloody terror have been the trademark of the communist secret police, from the Cheka to the KGB. Obviously, the demise of such an organization would be cause for much rejoicing. Hence, when the KGB was ordered dissolved and its chairman, General Vladimir Kryuchkov, was arrested in 1991 after attempting to overthrow "liberal reformer" Mikhail Gorbachev in the failed "August Coup," many people in the West were only too willing to pop the champagne corks and start celebrating our supposed victory over the Evil Empire.

But, as Mikhail Leontiyev, commentator for Russia's state-controlled Channel One television, recently noted, repeating a phrase popular among the siloviki: "Americans got so drunk at the USSR's funeral that they're still hung over." And stumbling around in their post-inebriation haze, many of these Americans have only recently begun noticing that they had prematurely written the KGB's epitaph, even as it was arising vampire-like from the coffin.

However, there is really no excuse for Olga Kryshtanovskaya or any of her American counterparts to be stunned by the current siloviki dominance in Putin's Russia. For nearly a decade, even before he became Russia's "president," THE NEW AMERICAN has been reporting on Putin's KGB pedigree and his steady implementation of a long-range Soviet deception strategy, including the public rehabilitation and refortifying of the KGB-FSB. ..." (continues at link)

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8420-putins-russia


23 posted on 10/06/2015 12:48:09 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: Navy Patriot
“For 16 years Putin was an officer in the KGB, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel before he retired to enter politics in his native Saint Petersburg in 1991.

He moved to Moscow in 1996 and joined President Boris Yeltsin’s administration where he rose quickly, becoming Acting President on 31 December 1999 when Yeltsin unexpectedly resigned. Putin won the subsequent 2000 presidential election, despite widespread accusations of vote-rigging,[3] and was reelected in 2004.”

On 25 July 1998, Yeltsin appointed Vladimir Putin head of the FSB (one of the successor agencies to the KGB), the position Putin occupied until August 1999. He became a permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation on 1 October 1998 and its Secretary on 29 March 1999.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin

24 posted on 10/06/2015 12:50:45 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: Navy Patriot
Understanding Provocation [Provokatsiya]
March 29, 2014

One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya.

While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, there’s no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).

Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists [in this case, dupe actual Jihadis -ETL], turning them to your side.

When you’re dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isn’t often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they don’t exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.

While this isn’t a particularly nice technique, it works surprisingly well, particularly if you don’t care about bloody and messy consequences. ..."

http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/
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In other words, it's like starting a fire, or pouring gasoline on a fire, in order to the 'big hero', being first on the scene to put it out. Except in this case, you get to grab control over the buildings and town you helped 'saved' from the fire.
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From Aug 23, 2015:

"a recent investigation conducted by Novaya Gazeta, one of the few independent newspapers left in Russia, complicates this cozy tale of counterterrorist cooperation. Based on extensive fieldwork in one village in the North Caucasus, reporter Elena Milashina has concluded that the “Russian special services have controlled” the flow of jihadists into Syria, where they have lately joined up not only with ISIS but other radical Islamist factions.

In other words, Russian officials are adding to the ranks of terrorists which the Russian government has deemed a collective threat to the security and longevity of its dictatorial ally on the Mediterranean, Bashar al-Assad."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html

25 posted on 10/06/2015 12:58:47 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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The "provokatsiya" tactic, as explained above, is in some ways very similar to what Charles Manson wanted to do with violent black gangs and individuals.
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Charles Manson's Helter Skelter:

"Helter Skelter would begin, according to one of Charlie's devotees, 'with the black man going into white people's homes and ripping off the white people, physically destroying them. A couple of spades from Watts would come up into the Bel Air and Beverly Hills district...and just really wipe some people out, just cutting bodies up and smearing blood and writing things on the wall in blood...all kinds of super-atrocious crimes that would really make the white man mad...until there was open revolution in the streets, until they finally won and took over. Then the black man would assume the white man's karma. He would then be the establishment'..."

Charlie and the Family would survive this racial holocaust because they would be hiding in the desert safe from the turmoil of the cities. He pulled from the Book of Revelations, the concept of a "bottomless pit," the entrance of which, according to Charlie, was a cave underneath Death Valley that led down to a city of gold. This paradise was where Charlie and his Family were going to wait out this war.

Afterwards, when the black man failed at keeping power, Charlie's Family, which they estimated would have multiplied to 144,000 by that time, would then take over from the black man and rule the cities.

"It will be our world then," Charlie told his followers. "There would be no one else, except for us and the black servants.

http://web.archive.org/web/20131031204914/http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/notorious/manson/skelter_6.html

26 posted on 10/06/2015 1:11:03 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: SpinnerWebb

EXACTLY!!

Chinese aircraft will be running strike missions in Syria, launching from a Chinese aircraft carrier.

http://www.debka.com/article/24926/Chinese-warplanes-to-join-Russian-air-strikes-in-Syria-Russia-gains-Iraqi-air-base


27 posted on 10/06/2015 1:52:49 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: ETL

Give credit where credit is due. Putin has done and is doing a great job for us all including Russia.


28 posted on 10/06/2015 2:01:42 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Darteaus94025

My guess would be that ISIS has Russian or Chinese (or both) Scud missiles in their possession and the Russians deployed their cruiser as ballistic missile defense


29 posted on 10/06/2015 2:15:39 PM PDT by chemical_boy
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To: Navy Patriot

How’s this for a scenario:

Hezbollah acquires a radiation bomb or a tactical nuke.
They launch it into Israel from a location near to the Russian/Iranians/Chinese forces.

That puts Israel in a very bad position, but it explains the Russian/Iranians/Chinese force concentration and anti-air assets.


30 posted on 10/06/2015 2:19:20 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: ArmstedFragg
Russians warned them away from a base yesterday.

No, that was disinformation.
31 posted on 10/06/2015 3:50:52 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: ETL
Putin was an officer in the KGB, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.

He was only a Lt Col! as some KGB/FSB Generals remarks.
32 posted on 10/06/2015 4:00:03 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: nuconvert
Just friggin brilliant, now both #Russia & #ISIS are targeting FSA Suqour al-Jabal at the same time in #Aleppo, #Syria. Air + ground attack!

https://twitter.com/Paradoxy13/status/651444821995950080

Surprise, surprise.

33 posted on 10/06/2015 4:01:54 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Navy Patriot

“The Russian navy created a de facto aerial defense zone to protect its Syria bases”

That’s what I do whenever I play the Soviet side in Red Alert II.


34 posted on 10/06/2015 4:23:20 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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