October 5, 2017 - The Rapture

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[Paul46360]

You obviously didn't understand my point about US..NOT knowing the day or time..ONLY the FATHER. Why part of that don't YOU UNDERSTAND???
You have NOT refuted the NT references that I posted..but only continued to argue your point of view..as YOU see it.

Do you NOT THINK that God would know that we'd have this stuff??? That we'd try and build a tower of babel if you will using computers to get to understand HIS thinking??

[TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed]

Paul,

I do not understand why you seem to be upset. Honestly.

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[Paul46360]

You are chicken-little type..I dislike anyone that goes around predicting when something in GOD's HANDS is going to happen.
It does NO service to His kingdom and only makes those like you laughed at more.

[Yosemitest]

"Finally, the straightforward reading of a key “rapture” passage makes it clear
that nobody but the martyrs,
those beheaded for Christ during the tribulation,
will rule with Christ during the millennium (Rev. 20:4-5)."

I wouldn't go quit that far, in LIMITING THOSE WHO "WILL RULE with Christ during the millennium."
Read it again, and remember that punctuation can be very important.

" And I saw
thrones,
and they sat upon them,
and judgment was given unto them :
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded
for the witness of Jesus,
and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast,
neither his image,
neither had received his mark
upon their foreheads,
or in their hands;
and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
But the rest of the dead lived not again
until the thousand years were finished.
This is the first resurrection. "

Now I THINK that could be construed as two different and separate things,
and one not being a requirement of the other, as in two different "seeings".

And don't be so quick to think "we should welcome the opportunity to be martyred and to serve our Lord in this way".
Remember:

" Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed
lest he fall.
There hath no temptation taken you
but such as is common to man:
but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able;
but will with the temptation also make a way to escape,
that ye MAY BE ABLE to bear it. "

Sometime the inspiration from God will tell us WHICH WAY to go, and we are given the opportunity to follow IMMEDIATELY sometimes, or be destroyed .

[Yosemitest]

"In your way of thinking, could you please give me your opinion on the who/what/when/why/etc.
of the multitude in white robes?"

My opinion?
I thought about this long ago, and am of the opinion that

they are the 24 that sit at God's table,
12 from the Old Testament,
and 12 from the New testament.
But that's JUST my opinion.

Read :
Revelation 4:4
And round about the throne were four and twenty seats:
and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment;
and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
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Revelation 4:10
the four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne,
and worship him that liveth for ever and ever,
and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
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Revelation 5:8
And when he had taken the book,
the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb,
having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours,
which are the prayers of saints.
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Revelation 5:14
And the four beasts said, Amen.
And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
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Revelation 11:16
And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats,
fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
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Revelation 19:4
And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down
and worshipped God that sat on the throne,
saying, Amen; Alleluia.
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Those 12 from the Old testament and 12 from the New Testament are probably spoken of in the Bible.

But your guess is just as good as mine.

Personally, I would not give it much thought.
Rather, PONDER your own behavior.
For THAT is what you will have to answer for.

[Cvengr]

mark

[TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed]

Campion,

You commented a few days ago on the visibility of objects in the solar system. I gave your comments some thought and updated my article october-5-2017.com to list the date range wherein I think that the Red Dragon may be visible.

The most important point is that the night side of the earth has to be facing the path of the Red Dragon in order to be visible to amateur astronomers. This is only true from about October, 2016 to about April, 2017. For both the six (6) months before and after that period, the day side of the earth will face the path of the Red Dragon.

[Cronos]

So, ToothinTothMSWordandDeef, did you get raptured?

[kosciusko51]

The FReeper got the zot awhile ago.

https://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:truthinthoughtwordan/index?brevity=full;tab=comments

[Cronos]

Or maybe he got raptured?

[MHGinTN]

Warnin to your Catholic arrogance: do not mock God or The Word of God. That said, do not take the mark which will be commanded of you, after the Body of Christ is departed with The Lord (which you are not a part of because those with the Holy Spirit abiding in their spirit will not mock God the way you are attempting to do by mocking those who have offered the truth to you and your Catholic apologists).

You would do well to read what JESUS said to your ilk in John 5:24. Pay particular attention to the verb tenses JESUS uses.

[MHGinTN]

ANYONE who claims to know the day or hour of the Departure should be ignored since JESUS told us even He did not know that specific aspect of the Departure. To use that spitefully in your Catholic arrogance is quite telling of you, not the dolt who made the prediction.

IF you truthfully would like to know more about the coming Departutre, just ask and it will be given to you.

[Cronos]

Warnin to your non-Christian arrogance: do not mock God or The Word of God.

That said,take the mark of Christ -- the sign of the Christ as commanded by the Holy Spirit

I would urge you to leave your false Rapture fantasy and join the Body of Christ, His Church, which you are not a part of because you have rejected Him

Also, don't mock God the way you are attempting to do by rejecting His Word which is clear that the 19th century anti-Christian rapture fantasy takes people away from Christ

[Cronos]

ANYONE who claims to know the day or hour of the Departure should be ignored

and that's why you need to leave your Darbyism and come to Christianity

To spitefully attack Christ's word as you are doing was prophesied that you, MHGinTN would do.

This was prophesied to us who reject the false teachers of the Rapture Jude 18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

Christ has told us that there will be no secret rapture before it. Our comfort rests in Him who will emerge from that confrontation as the Victor.

Leave your non-Christian rap ways and come to Christ

[MHGinTN]

LOL, you are so blind! Catholicism is NOT Christianity. But you are incapable of seeing that even as you post scripture then do not catch the meaning thereof.

"To spitefully attack Christ's word as you are doing was prophesied that you, MHGinTN would do." Nice try satan, er, dead soul. You do not have The Truth in you so you cannot comprehend the spiritual Truths found in and as The Word of God. So far, you have failed to show even one passage I have cited as being spitefully used by me. Your false teaching on those passages is not evidence of any spirteful use by me, though the spirit directing your mocjery has you believing that lie.

[Cronos]

Lol you are so blind - your pre-Trib secret Rapture 19th century philosophy is not Christianity.

But you are incapable of seeing or even reading scripture

To spitefully attack Christ's word as you are doing was prophesied that you, MHGinTN would do, This was prophesied to us who reject the false teachers of the Rapture Jude 18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

Christ has told us that there will be no secret rapture before it. Our comfort rests in Him who will emerge from that confrontation as the Victor.

Leave your non-Christian rap ways and come to Christ

[MHGinTN]

A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. You claim the preterist perspective that the AD70 destruction of the Temple is what John saw in the Revelation given to Him by Jesus, yet you fiddle in the notion that in the last days mockers will come. You are the one who mocks the departure event, trying to mock others who believe what the Bible teaches, by mocking the foolishness promoted by a error ridden claim of the day. Your fellow mocer has shown up on the other thread, proving the agenda of the spirit that directs you and he.

[Cronos]

The spirit of deadness within you is using this discussion to spew false teaching like the rapture (feeding your dead ego, doubtless).

Well, satan can find someone else to play your games I’m sure as you have already taken the mark with following the false teacher of Darby and the pastors you follow

you mock Jesus' prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem in the lifetime of those listening to Him - a prophecy that was fulfilled in 69 AD when the Christians in Jerusalem ran to Pellas in the hills

Why do you, MHG, persist in denying Christ?

[Cronos]

Why are you so blind - your pre-Trib secret Rapture 19th century philosophy is not Christianity.

But you are incapable of seeing or even reading scripture

To spitefully attack Christ's word as you are doing was prophesied that you, MHGinTN would do, This was prophesied to us who reject the false teachers of the Rapture Jude 18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

So do not persist in walking after your own and Darby's ways. reject your fake pastors who are wolves

Christ has told us that there will be no secret rapture before it. Our comfort rests in Him who will emerge from that confrontation as the Victor.

Leave your non-Christian rap ways and come to Christ