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CBS News: 'Many Hit With Obamacare Sticker Shock
TownHall ^ | Nov 02, 2015 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/02/2015 3:45:48 PM PST by bob_denard

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To: Norm Lenhart

What was the vote Norm? Can’t you be honest?


61 posted on 11/02/2015 5:38:31 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: doug from upland

It is about Barack Obama and some people not doing everything they could to get rid of him.


How is supporting McConnell the quisling supposed to stop Obama when McConnell does everything he can to enable Obama?


62 posted on 11/02/2015 5:39:50 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Karl Spooner

Sure. A Republican House and senate leader voting to put the bill up for a vote they knew their members would lose.

Thats completely honest. Does that fact of history upset you? Or would you rather everyone just forgot that the vote manipulated to benefit Obama by two Democrats in GOP clothing would paint your corrupt Republican garbage in a bad light?


63 posted on 11/02/2015 5:43:08 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Okay, I will post what I like. Wow, thanks for allowing that. We are all grateful. Meanwhile, Obama has almost 15 months to complete the destruction of the country.


64 posted on 11/02/2015 5:45:07 PM PST by doug from upland (The ultimate in foolishness -- "'Romney is just as bad as Obama" WTF?)
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To: bob_denard
Two "interesting" things are happening in Illinois, thanks to Obamacare:

1. Blue Cross/Shield is raising their premiums 15-30% for ALL BC/BS Illinois plan members in 2016. That due to their stupid decision to take in as many of the new Obamacare subscribers into an "Obama plan." These new subscribers (who previously had no insurance and receive GENEROUS TAX PAYER SUBSIDIZED plans) are costing BC/BS far more than they projected and "Obamacare funding" being cut for 2016 as planned when Obamacare was implemented;

2. The largest independent Obamacare "insurer" Land of Lincoln Insurance which took a $24,000,000 "loss" in the first half of 2015 after a $12,000,000 loss in 2014 is actually LIMITING the number of "new Obamacare" subscribers they'll accept in 2016. Currently they have 55,000 plan subscribers, they will ONLY ACCEPT another 15,000 in 2016 to "minimize losses."

But wait! you may be thinking. "How can an Obamacare plan refuse to accept new members?! Isn't the point of the law to cover everyone who doesn't have insurance?"

It appears "Land of Lincoln Insurance" is violating the Obamacare law by limiting new subscribers and may in fact, be sued.

Then again, over half of the "Obamacare Exchanges" have gone bankrupt (BY DESIGN) with the remainder likely to follow suit in 2016.

Again, AS DESIGNED TO FAIL in order for the CRIMINAL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to take over health-care.

65 posted on 11/02/2015 5:45:53 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: bob_denard

To renew my watered down coverage, already burdened with high co-pays and deductibles, I shall have the privilege of spending $19,000+ this coming year, about $200 a month more than my mortgage payment and a $1,250 increase over last year. I’m supposed to be grateful that its only going up 7%?

I just love Obamacare, don’t you?


66 posted on 11/02/2015 5:47:42 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: Norm Lenhart

And I suppose that Bush, when he nominated Roberts to SCOTUS, knew he would approve Obamacare. I just love your hindsight. I know you must have poeted this somewhere before the fact.


67 posted on 11/02/2015 5:49:04 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Norm Lenhart

“No, myself and other evil purists wewe proven by events to have been 100% correct about the lesser evil thing. Period. The results and the facts speak for themselves.”

Umm....

No they weren’t. The “lesser evil” thing didn’t really happen.

If you and other conservatives had come out and voted in Romney, we could have found out what he would have done with Obamacare, with us breathing down his neck to repeal it.

Now, we will never know anything except for the absolute fact that re-electing Obama made it 100% certain Obamacare would not be repealed.


68 posted on 11/02/2015 5:49:25 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I didn’t support McConnell.

Again, let me be specific because some people apparently are having trouble with reading comprehension. I will fight the RINOs as much as you. I AM SPECIFICIALLY TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING BARACK OBAMA TO HAVE A SECOND TERM. That was national suicide. Some will still not admit they were wrong in their decision.


69 posted on 11/02/2015 5:49:46 PM PST by doug from upland (The ultimate in foolishness -- "'Romney is just as bad as Obama" WTF?)
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To: Karl Spooner

Yea who could have known that two guys that campaigned on working with Obama would actually work with Obama.

It came as a surprise to everyone!


70 posted on 11/02/2015 5:51:47 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Get your facts straight.

Maggie Marshall - a south African - earns the credit for ‘fathering’ Obamacare. Not a Republican governor with a 90% democratic legislature.


71 posted on 11/02/2015 5:53:32 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: doug from upland

You’re right. They’re dead wrong. And we’re all paying for it now.


72 posted on 11/02/2015 5:53:37 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: Artcore

Ditto. He just likes to read what he is typing.


73 posted on 11/02/2015 5:54:04 PM PST by doug from upland (The ultimate in foolishness -- "'Romney is just as bad as Obama" WTF?)
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To: diamond6

” The “lesser evil” thing didn’t really happen.”

Riggggghtttt......

No one n FR or anywhere else EVER uttered anything like “If you don’t support X liberal you hate America and love Obama.

Never once did a Freeper or anyone else say “Well the Dem is worse”.

No...It never happened. Mitch and Jonbon and Kirk and Cornwin and Cockroach all appeared because staunch right wingers elected them for their conservatism.


74 posted on 11/02/2015 5:54:25 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: doug from upland

And yet you never factually refute what I’m typing.


75 posted on 11/02/2015 5:54:57 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Your response neatly avoids the real issue.

The real issue is whether Romney could have made a difference on Obamacare, not whether our RINO legislators are such weenies they won’t even pass a bill they know Zero will veto.


76 posted on 11/02/2015 5:56:54 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: ladyjane

Oh? Marshallcare was a thing?

ROMNEYCARE. His name made it famous. He pushed it. And it does not matter a tinkers damn what his legislature was.


77 posted on 11/02/2015 5:56:56 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: diamond6

Considering he fathered it I have no clue what facts lead you to think he would end his creation. His words?

Thats a funny one.


78 posted on 11/02/2015 5:58:01 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

We’ll never know now, will we?


79 posted on 11/02/2015 5:58:41 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: diamond6

Ditto. He doesn’t want to hear it.


80 posted on 11/02/2015 6:00:35 PM PST by doug from upland (The ultimate in foolishness -- "'Romney is just as bad as Obama" WTF?)
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