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Is Your Home Your Castle? You Wish.
Townhall.com ^ | November 7. 2015 | John C. Goodman

Posted on 11/07/2015 4:41:59 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: ZOOKER

“Then you won’t mind if I drill for oil in my back yard, right? Or start a pig farm?”

You would be shut down under trespass and nuisance contained in our well-established English common law. But zoning laws and illegal bureaucratic diktates are messing up our common law heritage.


41 posted on 11/07/2015 1:06:25 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Alberta's Child
I read the article, too. I'm still trying to figure out how Airbnb has any relevance to addressing a "housing shortage." I don't think the author has a clue what he's talking about on this subject.

Why is this so hard to understand? The guys who started AirBnB came up with the idea after having trouble finding affordable places to rent in San Francisco, and had to rent out one of the rooms in their loft as a mock "bed and breakfast" in order to make ends meet. They trialed their idea during big conferences in SF where conference attendees couldn't find hotel rooms and didn't have a mechanism for finding potential properties to rent.

This has nothing to do with zoning issues and everything to do with crony politicians bought and paid for by the hotel industry getting beaten by the voters.

This is a great development for crying out loud. Uber in San Antonio and AirBnB in San Francisco have proven you can fight city hall, and WIN. There's no reason for a pro-market, pro-liberty person to bitch.

42 posted on 11/07/2015 8:12:27 PM PST by GunRunner
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That still doesn't make any sense. Maybe Airbnb helps offset the high cost of housing in some of these places, but it doesn't add a single housing unit anywhere on the planet (as far as I know). So it hardly does anything to address a housing shortage.

I have a whole different take on Uber. Personally, I think their business model is eventually going to fall apart for a number of reasons. And I'm familiar enough with their dealings in New York City to know that there's nothing "pro-market, pro-liberty" about the company, at the end of the day.

43 posted on 11/08/2015 4:28:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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So it hardly does anything to address a housing shortage.

A housing shortage makes it difficult for prospective tenants and renters to find affordable places to live. AirBnB makes it easier for those looking to find those who are offering. I have no idea why this doesn't make sense to you, but it makes perfect sense to everyone else.

I have a whole different take on Uber.

Well, with no evidence to back up your claims, I'll take your prediction of their downfall as a meritless statement and nothing more.

I think their business model is likely to be copied, not fall apart. And yes, they're using the market to fight back against the taxi cartels and their government enablers.

You must not travel that often. I used Uber in San Francisco three weeks ago, and every other car that pulled up to the upper deck terminal was an Uber or Lyft driver. I used it in New York City two months ago and it has changed the way I get about the city when I have to go there.

Pro-market people love when new products change the way people experience travel. You must be the other type.

44 posted on 11/08/2015 7:21:22 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner
A housing shortage makes it difficult for prospective tenants and renters to find affordable places to live. AirBnB makes it easier for those looking to find those who are offering. I have no idea why this doesn't make sense to you, but it makes perfect sense to everyone else.

It really comes down to one simple question: If I build a 400-room hotel, have I done anything to address a housing shortage? If Airbnb is connecting travelers with informal lodging arrangements, then it really isn't addressing a housing shortage at all, is it?

Well, with no evidence to back up your claims, I'll take your prediction of their downfall as a meritless statement and nothing more.

Take a look at Uber's situation in New York City. It's illuminating in two important respects:

1. For routes that have fixed prices, it's probably the only place where Uber is more expensive than regular taxi cabs.

2. Uber is working with the NYC Taxi & Limousine Commission to shut down the operations of Lyft in the city. So much for a "pro-market" approach to doing business.

Ride-sharing services like Uber and Lyft have slowly lost their competitive edge as economic realities (i.e., market forces) come into play. The beauty of the companies' business model is that they generate lots of revenue with little or no risk at all. That is slowly changing as more and more drivers wise up to the fact that the entire business model is built on people working for very little pay. There's nothing wrong with that if everybody involved is an adult capable of making their own decisions, but that business model isn't likely to stand up over time. If your company platform is basically an app for gypsy cabs, then you're always going to lose out to bottom-feeders who are willing to work for less.

This is why I've felt all along that Uber isn't really interested in the ride-sharing business in the long term. Instead, it is mainly interested in doing business the way it does where it has acceded to local government regulations (mainly in Asia). In these cities, it works in partnership with taxi companies and basically just sells licensing rights to their app. In these scenarios, Uber suddenly turns from a "pro-market" champion to a supporter of government oversight ... because this only works if they have exclusive licensing deals that prohibit taxi cabs from using other competing apps.

45 posted on 11/08/2015 8:31:25 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: RKBA Democrat
As for zoning, there is no place in local governance that is more rife with corruption than zoning. There are places in the US that don’t have zoning such as Houston. They’ve managed to survive. Deed restrictions prevent rendering plants from being put next to daycare centers.

Zoning -- or something equivalent -- is pretty much a necessity in any jurisdiction where government is expected to provide public services or maintain public infrastructure. Protecting people from nuisances next door is one of the objectives of a zoning code. The other role of a zoning code is to ensure that land use is compatible with limitations of public utilities and infrastructure. If a municipality has a sewage treatment plant, for example, the capacity of the plant will be tied to the types and intensities of land uses in that jurisdiction. Building a 400-unit apartment building on a parcel of land that was originally planned for a half-dozen single-family homes may be disastrous for a town and all of its residents.

46 posted on 11/08/2015 8:44:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: RKBA Democrat
Right. Houston doesn't have zoning laws. They've managed to survive. Does it really matter, if you just end up with the mayor's office and the court system getting involved in property development issues anyway?

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47 posted on 11/08/2015 8:48:30 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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