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New ObamaCare angst as top insurer threatens to bail - payout to insurers is .13 on every $1.00
The Hill ^ | November 20, 2015 | Sarah Ferris

Posted on 11/20/2015 3:56:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: relictele

She might not have found it funny , but it is true.
By the way I did find it funny and in a way sad as it is true.


21 posted on 11/20/2015 4:50:41 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ontap

Did you actually think this was supposed to be successful? Read the post before this one.


22 posted on 11/20/2015 4:53:04 AM PST by Fhios
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The warning feels abrupt, coming less than a month after UnitedHealthCare projected solid growth in its ObamaCare plans.

Then the report about "solid growth" a month ago was a lie. You don't go from "solid growth" to "we may be pulling out of this mess..." in a month's time.

23 posted on 11/20/2015 4:57:51 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: relictele

LOL! I think it’s funny!


24 posted on 11/20/2015 4:59:42 AM PST by Michigander222
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Universal healthcare - single payer - government “health”care coming over the horizon?

Why on Earth would anyone think that as badly as Obamacare sucked, that a single payer system--a fully government-run system--would be better?

Obamacare is pouring gasoline over a burning house...a single-payer system would be the use of dynamite.

25 posted on 11/20/2015 5:01:53 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They’re just making noise so they can get more rate increases.... I have these guys as my health insurance on my individual plan (wife and I). We’re not in the Obamacare network.


26 posted on 11/20/2015 5:01:56 AM PST by kjam22
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Has anyone else noticed the change in Bo’s demeanor? I notice a change as even his coddling
press has begun to challenge him on his blatant disregard
of the muzzie danger. He has gone from arrogant smugness
to overt anger. Look at his eyes and hear his clipped voice.
He is more dangerous than ever. He reminds me of Hitler
when the war began to turn against him. How can this be
happening to ME?


27 posted on 11/20/2015 5:03:25 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I notice a change in King Hussien’s demeanor as even his coddling
press has begun to challenge him on his blatant disregard
of the muzzie danger. He has gone from arrogant smugness
to overt anger. Look at his eyes and hear his clipped voice.
He is more dangerous than ever. He reminds me of Hitler
when the war began to turn against him. How can this be
happening to ME?


28 posted on 11/20/2015 5:03:57 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: relictele

In Europe, the post of Minister of Health is equal to Foreign Minister, and ten steps above Minister of Defense.


29 posted on 11/20/2015 5:10:09 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Isn’t United AARP? AARP can be credited with bringing us obamacare in the first place. Without AARP’s heavy expense and propaganda some of those Democrat Senators might not have voted for it. Why is AARP trying to get us Single Payer now? Is AARP in position to be the Single Provider?


30 posted on 11/20/2015 5:12:36 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

I appreciate all the comments, but it’s over.

There’s nothing to do any more. What existed before Obamacare has been destroyed. It’s gone and it’s not coming back.

The insurance companies were set up by a scorpion who offered them a ride across the river. They’re about to drown.

There’s only one payer with the resources and the computational power to pay for “value based, evidence driven” medical care scored by electronic records and whose value in dollars is set nationally.

Forward!


31 posted on 11/20/2015 5:13:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Single Payer was the goal from the first. I think I remember even Mrs. Bill saying that way back when.


32 posted on 11/20/2015 5:14:10 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: relictele

The medical profession does not resist and will nto resist the total socialization of medicine. The better ones react by retiring, if they already have their investments, or moving offshore as the best of the English and Canadian doctors did. The quality of practitioners in England has declined precipitously with the advent of Single Payer The induced shortage of doctors in this country will be made up by devolving doctors’ duties onto nurses and by reducing standards at medical schools as the brighter kids no longer go into medicine. The lesser doctors hire on to Hospitals and become not terribly highly paid employees and will more and more work their 40 hours and go home each day. Seeing more patients does not get these employees any more income but does raise their risk or lawsuit which still remains.


33 posted on 11/20/2015 5:21:01 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I found it revealing that the press forgot who they supported for a moment and were incredulous that Obama would leave the house unlocked after having been burgled the day before.


34 posted on 11/20/2015 5:22:06 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump single-payer will make sure corporations are okay, because sucking wealth for the favored few is what he thinks government is for.


35 posted on 11/20/2015 5:27:48 AM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: Artie

That’s not ROI, that’s 13 cents per dollar on receivables. More like a bankruptcy settlement than a payment. In millennial math terms, it’s bad juju.


36 posted on 11/20/2015 5:27:58 AM PST by antidisestablishment (If Washington was judged with the same standard as Sodom, it would not exist.)
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To: relictele

Not following you?


37 posted on 11/20/2015 5:41:37 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Obamacare scorpion has stung the insurance company frog.

To hear HHS & other Obamacare supporters try to spin United's statement as 'no big deal' and insurance companies will rotate in and out of the market & this was only a small chunk of the market ... and on and on is laughable. This is a huge deal. Obamacare is terminally ill because its business insurance model does not work.

UnitedHealth Group Losing Big Money and Threatening to Leave the Obamacare Exchanges--Because the Obamacare Insurance Business Model Does Not Work

When will the denial, over the real shape Obamacare is in, end?

The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Urban Institute findings have now given additional credibility to the very same conclusion many of us have been trying to make since the Obamacare launch: The Obama administration has NOT been so successful in enrolling those eligible--they've got more than 60% of the group remaining!

If the Obama administration signs up the 10 million they are estimating they will sign-up during the current open enrollment, based upon the historic number that are subsidy eligible, they will have less than the 9 million of the 24 million RWJF and UI estimate are in the potential exchange subsidy market - just a 38% success rate. And, that is nowhere near where they will have to be to make these risk pools sustainable for the insurance companies or politically sustainable in the country.

Or keep the likes of UnitedHealth Group in the program.

38 posted on 11/20/2015 5:51:05 AM PST by Qiviut
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To: relictele

Ok well let’s hear your ideas on exactly what nurses and medical professionals are supposed to do.

We are NOT like other professions. We can’t simply go on strike, for example. We just have to keep showing up for work or people don’t get taken care of.

I was once working for a hospice company that went out of business and left us nurses and cna’s high and dry, with no paycheck. Worst of all, they left their patients. Well we couldn’t just abandon them. So we kept seeing them as we were contacting their docs. Luckily another hospice company stepped in, took the pts, then hired all of us.

I was also was a pt last month. Had to have an ICD placed because of a diagnosis of A.R.V.D. I wouldn’t have wanted to be abandoned so some nurses and Dr’s could demand change by “taken it to the streets!”

So what should we do?


39 posted on 11/20/2015 6:18:30 AM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: arthurus
I am convinced that United Healthcare will be the Administrator of our impending Nationalized Healthcare System. They are just rearranging the deck chairs before the sinking of private health care.
40 posted on 11/20/2015 6:37:39 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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