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Question: Do moderate Muslims believe in the Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc?
November 20, 2015

Posted on 11/20/2015 7:51:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Question: Do moderate Muslims believe in the Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc?

If so, why would they be considered "moderate" and why should any of them be allowed into our country under any circumstances whatsoever?

The Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc, are beliefs, laws and concepts that are antithetical to our Judeo-Christian system of government, constitution laws, culture, etc, and besides being hateful and incitement to violence and terrorism are in fact, subversive to our constitution and a direct threat to our unalienable rights and even to the continuation of our free nation.

The following is excerpted from: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/204505/does-quran-teach-hate-robert-spencer

The Qur'an teaches that Muslims must fight and kill unbelievers "wherever you overtake them" until "religion is Allah's," i.e. Islamic law rules all societies (2:190-193). They must fight unbelievers "until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah" (8:39). Muslims are to fight unbelievers and "prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows" (8:60).

Allah tells Muhammad to "fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination" (9:73). The followers of Muhammad should imitate him in this: "O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness" (9:123). For "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves" (48:29).

Muslims should not befriend non-Muslims, unless, as we have seen, it is to deceive them to save oneself from danger: "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence" (3:28).

Allah says he will "cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve" (3:151). He tells his prophet: "[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

Among "those who have disbelieved" are the Christians, who have made themselves into disbelievers by worshipping Christ as God: "They have certainly disbelieved who say, 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary'" (5:17; 5:72). In worshipping Christ, they have associated a partner with Allah, thereby becoming polytheists, and "the polytheists are unclean" (9:28). Both Jews and Christians have ascribed a son to Allah, for which Allah should destroy them: "The Jews say, 'Ezra is the son of Allah'; and the Christians say, 'The Messiah is the son of Allah.' That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?" (9:30).

Chief among those are the Jews. The Muslim holy book also contends that Allah transformed disobedient Jews into "apes, despised" (2:65; 7:166), and "apes and pigs" (5:60). It says that they're accursed for rejecting the Qur'an, which they should have recognized as confirming their own Scriptures: "And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers" (2:89).

The Qur'an says that while Muslims are "the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind," the People of the Book (primarily Jews and Christians) are mostly "defiantly disobedient" (3:110). The Jews "have been put under humiliation [by Allah] wherever they are overtaken, except for a covenant from Allah and a rope from the Muslims" -- that is, except those who have accepted Islam or submitted to Muslim rule. "And they have drawn upon themselves anger from Allah and have been put under destitution. That is because they disbelieved in the verses of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That is because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed" (3:112). They killed the prophets because they disliked their messages: "Whenever there came to them a messenger with what their souls did not desire, a party [of messengers] they denied, and another party they killed" (5:70).

Not only have they disbelieved in revelations from Allah and killed the prophets, but they even dare to mock Allah himself: "And the Jews say, 'The hand of Allah is chained.' Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say." They "strive throughout the land [causing] corruption, and Allah does not like corrupters" (5:64).

Allah gave food laws to the Jews because of their "wrongdoing," and "for their averting from the way of Allah many [people]" (4:160), and by doing so, "repaid them for their injustice" (6:146). Some Jews are "avid listeners to falsehood" who "distort words beyond their [proper] usages." These are "the ones for whom Allah does not intend to purify their hearts," and they will be punished not just in hellfire but in this life as well: "For them in this world is disgrace, and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment" (5:41).

Jews dare to deny divine revelation, claiming that "Allah did not reveal to a human being anything," to which Muhammad is told to respond, "Who revealed the Scripture that Moses brought as light and guidance to the people? You [Jews] make it into pages, disclosing [some of] it and concealing much" (6:91).

In light of all this, it is understandable that Muslims should not get close to such people: "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people" (5:51). What's more, the Jews are "the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers" (5:82).

While Muslims are the "best of people" (3:110), "they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures" (98:6). They are "like livestock" (7:179). "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe" (8:55).


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To: Jim Robinson
Ok, so how are they going to vet a radicalized muslim from one who is not?.....or a so called "Moderate" from one pretending to be one? Are not most Muslims at Mosques, and adhereing to the Koran already "primed"....just a matter of what event or happening "trigger's" what they're already indoctrinated to do by Islamic teachings and what the Koran teaches as their "duty"?......

All of islam is 'naturally radical' because it mandates genocide, apartheid, mutilation, slavery, pedophilia, etc. and they ALL Muslims share the same koran ... it is not a buffet from which they can pick and chose.


21 posted on 11/20/2015 8:12:43 PM PST by caww
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To: Jim Robinson
Ok, so how are they going to vet a radicalized muslim from one who is not?.....or a so called "Moderate" from one pretending to be one? Are not most Muslims at Mosques, and adhereing to the Koran already "primed"....just a matter of what event or happening "trigger's" what they're already indoctrinated to do by Islamic teachings and what the Koran teaches as their "duty"?......

All of islam is 'naturally radical' because it mandates genocide, apartheid, mutilation, slavery, pedophilia, etc. and they ALL Muslims share the same koran ... it is not a buffet from which they can pick and chose.


22 posted on 11/20/2015 8:12:43 PM PST by caww
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To: Jim Robinson

The Evil of this satanic death cult is taught to the children
from infancy and the indoctrination is complete.
With Males being in such total control of the family unit,
any dissension is harshly suppressed.
A Reformation is impossible ,

IMHO.


23 posted on 11/20/2015 8:15:30 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jihad is an inner struggle. < -— The big lie.


24 posted on 11/20/2015 8:15:31 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: All

Only after the crazies kill all of us ... then they do because what choice will they have? (at that point, what difference will it make sort of a deal)


25 posted on 11/20/2015 8:21:31 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Sorry Hillary the Oval Office has been reserved by the first gentleman)
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To: Jim Robinson
Taqiyya...even if they tell you to your face they're moderate, you can't believe them because their "holy" book commands them to lie to you.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

26 posted on 11/20/2015 8:23:49 PM PST by wku man ("Weenie in a Hybrid" by 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdLDSB_6gY)
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To: Jim Robinson

Moderate Muslims are only moderately Muslim.

Real Islam doesn’t recognize someone as only partly Muslim either...and according to the professors I’ve heard lecture on this subject, there simply is no dividing line between radical Jihadists and your average “moderate” Muslim, its just a matter of how seriously they are following their religion.


27 posted on 11/20/2015 8:23:53 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: bigtoona

“A true muslim wants to cut your head off, a moderate muslim wants a true muslim to cut your head off”


28 posted on 11/20/2015 8:30:57 PM PST by fivecatsandadog ( What strategy? Tell me what your strategy is and I'll tell you if its working". Quinn, "Homeland")
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To: Jim Robinson
There are only 3 kinds of muslims;
29 posted on 11/20/2015 8:33:14 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Moderate Muslim” is a fairytale created by the Unicorn cowboys of brokebutt mountain.

The libs live in a fantasy World.


30 posted on 11/20/2015 8:46:32 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: fivecatsandadog

5C&D:

Perfect Summary!


31 posted on 11/20/2015 8:46:35 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: Jim Robinson

They better or they have their heads handed to them.


32 posted on 11/20/2015 8:50:38 PM PST by ebshumidors
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m led to understand there are millions of moderate Muslims. I haven’t met him yet.


33 posted on 11/20/2015 8:53:45 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Jim Robinson
This is what the former prime minister of Turkey had to say about "moderate islam"..."

"These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it."

So my take is that there is no such thing as a "moderate muslim".

34 posted on 11/20/2015 8:57:04 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: econjack

Being a moderate Muslim is like being just a little bit pregnant....no such thing.


35 posted on 11/20/2015 8:57:43 PM PST by DefeatCorruption
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To: Jim Robinson

“Moderate” muslims pave the way for jihad. Bringing in the Caliphate cannot be denied by any muslim for any reason. If you aren’t doing violent jihad, then you are practicing jihad by other means, anytime, anyhere. To do otherwise is to become apostate- a fate worse than being an infidel.


36 posted on 11/20/2015 9:05:53 PM PST by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: DefeatCorruption

The Imams consistently state there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.....that it’s a western invention and does not exist.

But they do acknowledge there are ‘Apostate Muslims’....which to an Islamic Muslim is one who has left Islam and no longer qualify as Muslim.....it is a conscious abandonment of Islam by a Muslim in word or through deed..as well as Muslims who have ‘questioned’ or denied any “fundamental tenet or creed” of Islam.

The vast majority of Islamic scholars have held that apostasy in Islam is ‘a crime punishable with the death penalty’, typically after a waiting period to allow the apostate time to repent and return to Islam. But others have varied opinions.


37 posted on 11/20/2015 9:08:10 PM PST by caww
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To: AnalogReigns
there simply is no dividing line between radical Jihadists and your average “moderate” Muslim, its just a matter of how seriously they are following their religion.

Even a nominal Muslim, who was born into the religion but does not believe in it and does not follow the rituals, is still counted as a Muslim and is added into the pool of "peaceful" adherents. But in reality that person is not religious at all and should not be counted. This technique creates a significant error when the entire population of a country is counted as Muslim, even though only a much smaller number cares about Islam and chooses to dedicate some resources to it (even if it's just their own time.)

38 posted on 11/20/2015 9:12:08 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Jim Robinson

Moderate muslims are people who do good in spite of their religion’s teachings.


39 posted on 11/20/2015 9:15:42 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Jim Robinson
Looks like France is going after the "Moderates"????

French counter-terrorism officers 'RAIDED A MOSQUE' in the port city of Brest at 3.30am today! (It's about time!).... the first time that a mosque has been targeted since the attacks a week ago....It went on for two-and-a-half hours, as police were also seen swarming into the nearby home of the mosque's 'radical Imam Rachid Abou Houdeyfa....raided while he was there....


40 posted on 11/20/2015 9:22:52 PM PST by caww
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