Question: Do moderate Muslims believe in the Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc?

November 20, 2015

[Jim Robinson]

Question: Do moderate Muslims believe in the Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc?

If so, why would they be considered "moderate" and why should any of them be allowed into our country under any circumstances whatsoever?

The Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc, are beliefs, laws and concepts that are antithetical to our Judeo-Christian system of government, constitution laws, culture, etc, and besides being hateful and incitement to violence and terrorism are in fact, subversive to our constitution and a direct threat to our unalienable rights and even to the continuation of our free nation.

The following is excerpted from: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/204505/does-quran-teach-hate-robert-spencer

The Qur'an teaches that Muslims must fight and kill unbelievers "wherever you overtake them" until "religion is Allah's," i.e. Islamic law rules all societies (2:190-193). They must fight unbelievers "until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah" (8:39). Muslims are to fight unbelievers and "prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows" (8:60).

Allah tells Muhammad to "fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination" (9:73). The followers of Muhammad should imitate him in this: "O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness" (9:123). For "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves" (48:29).

Muslims should not befriend non-Muslims, unless, as we have seen, it is to deceive them to save oneself from danger: "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence" (3:28).

Allah says he will "cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve" (3:151). He tells his prophet: "[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

Among "those who have disbelieved" are the Christians, who have made themselves into disbelievers by worshipping Christ as God: "They have certainly disbelieved who say, 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary'" (5:17; 5:72). In worshipping Christ, they have associated a partner with Allah, thereby becoming polytheists, and "the polytheists are unclean" (9:28). Both Jews and Christians have ascribed a son to Allah, for which Allah should destroy them: "The Jews say, 'Ezra is the son of Allah'; and the Christians say, 'The Messiah is the son of Allah.' That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?" (9:30).

Chief among those are the Jews. The Muslim holy book also contends that Allah transformed disobedient Jews into "apes, despised" (2:65; 7:166), and "apes and pigs" (5:60). It says that they're accursed for rejecting the Qur'an, which they should have recognized as confirming their own Scriptures: "And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers" (2:89).

The Qur'an says that while Muslims are "the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind," the People of the Book (primarily Jews and Christians) are mostly "defiantly disobedient" (3:110). The Jews "have been put under humiliation [by Allah] wherever they are overtaken, except for a covenant from Allah and a rope from the Muslims" -- that is, except those who have accepted Islam or submitted to Muslim rule. "And they have drawn upon themselves anger from Allah and have been put under destitution. That is because they disbelieved in the verses of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That is because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed" (3:112). They killed the prophets because they disliked their messages: "Whenever there came to them a messenger with what their souls did not desire, a party [of messengers] they denied, and another party they killed" (5:70).

Not only have they disbelieved in revelations from Allah and killed the prophets, but they even dare to mock Allah himself: "And the Jews say, 'The hand of Allah is chained.' Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say." They "strive throughout the land [causing] corruption, and Allah does not like corrupters" (5:64).

Allah gave food laws to the Jews because of their "wrongdoing," and "for their averting from the way of Allah many [people]" (4:160), and by doing so, "repaid them for their injustice" (6:146). Some Jews are "avid listeners to falsehood" who "distort words beyond their [proper] usages." These are "the ones for whom Allah does not intend to purify their hearts," and they will be punished not just in hellfire but in this life as well: "For them in this world is disgrace, and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment" (5:41).

Jews dare to deny divine revelation, claiming that "Allah did not reveal to a human being anything," to which Muhammad is told to respond, "Who revealed the Scripture that Moses brought as light and guidance to the people? You [Jews] make it into pages, disclosing [some of] it and concealing much" (6:91).

In light of all this, it is understandable that Muslims should not get close to such people: "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people" (5:51). What's more, the Jews are "the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers" (5:82).

While Muslims are the "best of people" (3:110), "they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures" (98:6). They are "like livestock" (7:179). "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe" (8:55).

[A child of Yah]

There is only one “is” in islam and “it is what it is”.
There is no in between to it and those who say there is, are willfully ignorant or just straight up lying.

Just look at the fruit of that “tree of islam”.
It is rotten to the core, and yea... some will tell you that those extremists don’t represent the “true islam”. Bull malarkey.

If you think some branches of that tree are misguided, then just go and read the lines of that tree, because those extremists are doing exactly what the lines of that tree said to do in that “killing manual” that each and everyone of them follow.

Milder muslims are just kidding themselves by picking out the early milder meccan verses and forgetting those later violent medina verses that abrogate and replace those so-called mild ones.

My neighbor was always telling me how wonderful islam is and how their “profit” even married a jewish lady. I told her yea... after he just got done slaughtering her father, her uncles, her brothers, and every male child above the age of puberty.

You know what her response was?
Well... they must have done something wrong.
I said yea... they rejected islam.

I refuse to delude myself with what talking heads say.
I see the nature of this “beast of slam” and it is straight from the pits of hell ... pffttt.

[lightman]

Ferdinand and Isabella had the right plan in the years ramping up to 1492.

[Sacajaweau]

No matter how you cut it, so called moderate muslims are supporting the killer muslims and are therefore complicit in every way.

[imardmd1]

The Mohammedan cannot be democratized, neither can he be reasoned with to bow in homage to the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Jesus of Nazareth. Moreover, we should never forget that Islam's extension has always been--like the statist religion of medieval Europe--by carnal means: the edge of the sword, fire, and murder of its opponents.

It was not until the gift of the restored Greek Bible text through the researches of that rebel Catholic, Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus, that brought Christian reason back into practice; and with it, the propagation of The Faith by preaching the Gospel and practical application of it through reliance on the authority of the Holy Scriptures alone.

From that rebirth of New Testament principles came also the congregational form of church polity, and eventually the republican democracy vested in our representatives by the Constitution. The systems of statist religion, whether Islamic or other, cannot coexist with the model supplied by America's Founding Fathers, but must wipe it out.

And that is why we must reject further diluting what remains of our already-tainted ideals by refusing immigration or nurturing of Islamists who will become influential, policy-making, freedom-destroying voters.

[sarasmom]

Jim,
There is no possible correct answer to those questions, for any person(s) born into a Muslim family/society/nation or for any person forced into close proximity of same.

The penalty for dissent against Islamic rule, always includes threats of certain death, for any who would dare to say NO, and become open apostates.
And the death threats/actions are almost always carried out by close friends and family members, seeking to save themselves.

Islam is not a theology, it is merely a deranged death cult.

['smith]

“Moderate” muslims are apostate. We should encourage them.

[A child of Yah]

Do you have a link for that raid?
I’ve tried a search with no success.
I even went to this 911 link site I saved from this site the other nite but that came up empty too.

I so wish a big giant spotlight would come over this world and expose all this evil that’s running rampant and root it out once and for all ... sighs ... I’m looking up, yet I feel so low

[gusty]

What the world needs is another Kemal Ataturk to come along. He took his people by the scruff of the neck, and told them to forget the backward Islamic stuff, and become a modern man. He mandated that men wear western attire on penalty of prison. He firmly believed that Islam was dragging his people down. He also believed that the Arabs were dragging the Turks down, and he welcomed the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire and the creation of the Turkish nation state to place the Arabs on the outside looking in. He felt there was no hope for them. They were too backward to reform. For a while in the mid 20th Century, Modernity is what the movers and shakers in the Islamic world strived for. Look at photograph's of Afghanistan or Egypt in the 1950’s. You will see the women uncovered and the men in jacket and tie. To be otherwise was looked down on, a peasant, a hillbilly in our parlance. In the 50’s and 60’s, people in the Middle East looked at today's Imams in the same way we regard a preacher holding a bunch of snakes over his head.

[amorphous]

Question: Do moderate Muslims believe in the Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, etc?

Yes they do believe all of the above. Keep in mind, it's what they've been taught most of their entire lives. Smarter and basically decent Muslims can and have been converted to Christianity. If a convert is discovered in a Muslim controlled country and sometimes Muslim pockets in Western countries, where it's a capital crime to leave Islam, they can and have been executed by the thousands.

If so, why would they be considered "moderate"...

Looks to me like they are considered "moderate" in the west if they haven't killed, maimed, or raped non-Muslim women in support of Islam. Reasons vary - perhaps they aren't that dedicated to this cult, or they don't have the heart for committing violence. But even moderates believe in other parts of the Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, ...

... and why should any of them be allowed into our country under any circumstances whatsoever?

I don't know about not allowing "any of them" in the country. Some may be converted and make great citizens. I do believe they shouldn't be allowed to practice Islam anymore than Nazis should be allowed to practice Nazism. Neither are an actual "Religion". Both are murderous, destructive cults and freedom of religion shouldn't apply here, nor apply to any cult which seeks the destruction of others who refuse to participate in their evil and abominations against God. So since the world doesn't tolerate Nazism, why should the world tolerate Islam, a cult far worse.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

We who do wrestle with these need a plan!

[dfwgator]

What people think of “moderate” Muslims are actually cultural Muslims, who basically go through the motions, but don’t believe anything about the religion although they may observe certain Islamic customs, likel “Cultural Jews” who are pretty much atheists.

[mdmathis6]

Islam codifies as righteousness those sinful excesses that all males in their souls are susceptible to fall into, giving them “legitimized” people groups that they can satiate their evil passions upon(mainly anyone not Muslim, especially women)! A Muslim male can beat his wife black and blue but may not touch another Muslim’s wife. He may however commit fornication with any non Muslim woman as they are considered subhuman, only fit to satiate the Islamist male’s pent up lusts! Now it is true that “not all” Muslim males may practice such barbarity, but such barbarity is practiced at the very highest rates across Islamic regions relative to the rest of the world’s male population!

[exnavy]

There is no moderate or radical moslem, all the same. Moslem/islam is Satan’s followers.

[goldstategop]

They’re all extreme.

They want us dead, to be good Muslims or to become their slaves.

There is no freedom under Sharia and under Islam.

Everything is decreed by Allah and man cannot change his fate.

The word Islam means “submission.”

It values are antithetical to the values of the European Enlightenment and to our values.

Its an inimical anti-American philosophy.

I get sick at the halal excuses people make for Islam. There is no radical Islam, they all believe the same thing.

The difference between the jihadis and the rest of them is over how much faster to subjugate us.

People are in denial about the true nature of Islam - about its totalitarian identity just as they were in denial about the evils of Communism and Nazism.

Do we want more of them here? My answer is a flat unequivocal “no” - if we wish to preserve America and the freedoms we enjoy.

[P.O.E.]

BTTT

[Jim Robinson]

“Do we want more of them here? My answer is a flat unequivocal “no” - if we wish to preserve America and the freedoms we enjoy.”

That’s my conclusion, too. Even the so-called moderates hate our Judeo-Christian laws and ways and have no intention of assimilating into our society. They didn’t in Europe and they won’t here.. They can’t wait to get our liberal judges to ram Sharia law down our throats and become a protected class here.

[Excellence]

Jihad is the Eucharist of Islam. If a Moslem does not partake of jihad, then they are not a Moslem in good standing.

[SC DOC]

[dila813]

All terrorists are moderate Muslims, they drink, steal, rape, etc....that’s not a religious Muslim.

Why? Because Jihad is guaranteed way to ascend to heaven regardless of your sins.

So when someone tells you they are moderate Muslims, BE CONCERNED!! THOSE ARE THE TERRORISTS!!!

[libertarian27]

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[abclily]

Answer: Yes.