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Cooke's piece nicely tees up my feelings about Trump and his ideology.

Convince me I wrong.

1 posted on 11/20/2015 11:30:00 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Convince you you’re wrong?

No, just go vote for Romney or whoever... Leave the dirty work to us.


181 posted on 11/21/2015 2:29:46 AM PST by Bullish (Face it, insanity is just not presidential.)
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trump has no constitutional compass.


184 posted on 11/21/2015 2:49:16 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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Trump is not in fact an antidote to Barack Obama. He is his parallel.

Nonsense. Producer v. parasite, non-politician v. politician.

186 posted on 11/21/2015 3:06:33 AM PST by PGalt
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He’s already said yes to ethanol and wind subsidies and his supporters don’t have the stones to vet their boy.


188 posted on 11/21/2015 3:12:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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Cooke, Geraghty, Goldberg, Benson, the Four Horsemen of the Anti-Trump Apocalypse. Sorry, they have been haters from day one. The defeated Walker bitterness bubbles up again.


189 posted on 11/21/2015 3:27:29 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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I don't think Trump has an ideology, and that my dear CW is his strength.

And it's more than a bit rich for NR to posture themselves as conservative crusaders when they are the very epitome of the GOPe that has betrayed us at every single turn

You can measure a man by the enemies he makes, and so far Trump is making all the right enemies; just like the Tea Party I might add.

190 posted on 11/21/2015 3:29:31 AM PST by Pietro
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If you think Yeb would be better have at it


192 posted on 11/21/2015 3:41:27 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Convince me I wrong.

You can't be convinced but you do make a good case for planned parenthood.

196 posted on 11/21/2015 4:04:02 AM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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Cooke's analysis is founded on a dishonest hit piece that took Trump's comments out of context. Oddly, as in other instances, the controversy will do little to diminish Trump's appeal because, if the claim against him is taken as true, it marks him as a feisty populist conservative with little regard for establishment political sensitivities.

With the US and most of the world in conflict with radical Islam, is a federal database of US Muslims really so out of line? Such databases are already no doubt available for commercial purposes, so why would a federal database be so objectionable?

During the Cold War, US conservatives -- including National Review -- strongly supported stringent internal security measures and disagreed with the eventual voiding of many of them by the US Supreme Court. One of Bill Buckley's earliest books was even a robust defense of Joe McCarthy -- a position that Buckley never repudiated.

Notably, a wartime FDR even approved the internment of Japanese immigrants and their citizen offspring due to well-founded internal security concerns. Radio intercepts showed that a dozen or so Japanese spy and sabotage rings were operating on the US west coast and the FBI was unable to locate them. The internment of the Japanese though shut every one of them down.

Yet in fact Trump did not call for a database of Muslims or for the internment of Muslims, and the larger point is what kind of President Donald Trump would be. Trump, a New Yorker to the core, would be much like the last Republican President from New York -- Teddy Roosevelt -- in his zest for controversy, assertion of American national interest, and build up of military strength.

In domestic policy, unlike Teddy Roosevelt, Trump's business background would put him on the side of growth, jobs, low taxes, and free markets. On Obamacare, Trump is like other GOP candidates: get rid of it. There is no sound basis on which to think that Trump would disregard the constitution -- unlike the US Supreme Court, which seems to do so regularly.

Is there anything about Trump to worry over? Well, like Teddy Roosevelt in his day, the GOP establishment hates him, and he is not from within the conservative clubhouse.

On the plus side, these attributes and Trump's outsize personality have made inroads among blue collar Democrats, Blacks, and Hispanics. Most of all, Trump opposes illegal immigration and means it. This a winning issue politically and a fight that must be won if the US is to survive as a self-governing constitutional republic.

Otherwise, the massive tide of immigration and coming fiscal crisis will tilt the country Left more or less permanently. With the GOP establishment dominated by cheap labor interests determined on an open borders policy, the anti-establishment Trump may well be the best hope we have, not just for winning in 2016, but for being able to win at all in coming elections.

197 posted on 11/21/2015 4:04:14 AM PST by Rockingham
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We are all in the Database. All of us.

We get on no fly lists for this or that and then come off of it.

You won’t consider anyone else, and that is admirable. I want a street fighter, and that’s Trump. He has his OWN money. That right there is good enough for me, along with the fact that EVERYONE in DC, the media, and the Shadow Government/Soros want to crush him-which tells us not only what they want (destroying the US), but also who he is in fighting them.

I believe he is our last chance.

Do I admire Cruz? Yes. Do I think Cruz can win? No. Furthermore, Cruz would have to deal with the Congress, and his arguments would fall flat, simply on political grounds. Besides, Cruz isn’t a street fighter, a mensch who’ll get his hands in the mud to fight his opponents. This saddens me, too, because his cowboy boots could use some mud.


203 posted on 11/21/2015 4:36:28 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Nowhere in his rhetoric will you find any reference to America's pre-existing cultural and legal traditions, or to the necessary bounds that free men insist be imposed upon the state. There is no talk of "freedom"; no reflexive grounding of ideas in the Declaration and the Federalist Papers; no conceptual explanation or underlying philosophy. There is nothing, except will to power [i.e., his preoccupation with poll numbers]

By his own admission, Trump's are the politics of doing enthusiastically what works in the moment [he's not principled but a pragmatist, i.e., Kelo]; of Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt; of the administrative state and of bureaucratic expertise; of the Prussians and the French and the Singaporeans. Whatever he might claim before his adoring crowds, Trump is not in fact an antidote to Barack Obama. He is his parallel.

I wish the Trump supporters would put the pom-poms down for a minute and think about this.

It's sobering.

Trump has done some good things, including giving the other candidates a spine, but we need a principled, intelligent, courageous president with a solid track record, like Cruz.

204 posted on 11/21/2015 4:37:40 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7H)
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How did this tripe ever make it to National Review?

This is fourth grade level stuff—my, how R has fallen!

As for convincing you otherwise, that will never happen.

You scraped the literary bottom of the barrel to find this hit piece, which totally fits your skewed world view of things.

We get that you do not like Trump.

I just wish you would stop polluting FR with these incessantly inane posts that showcase your Trump Derangement Syndrome.


210 posted on 11/21/2015 4:52:38 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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Another person I thought had some brains and made sense....but is dumb as rocks.

I don’t think these pundits realize that any republican candidate must also fight the press. Trump is putting them on the defense every chance he gets.

Instead of writing about “thin skinned” Trump why not point out the cheap shot press, and while you’re at the cheap shot artists like Flacid Jeb Bush.


216 posted on 11/21/2015 5:09:40 AM PST by nikos1121 ("There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." Thoreau)
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Cooke's piece nicely tees up my feelings about Trump and his ideology. Convince me I wrong.

Exactly how does one convince a foaming at the mouth lunatic that they're wrong???? The insane person doesn't realize he (or she) is insane - they think they are doing just fine and dandy in the sense department and don't notice the dark flickers behind the eyes or the foamy bubble on the lips that sane people see in them.

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217 posted on 11/21/2015 5:09:55 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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The theme of the article was lame. Trumps supposed inability to say “no” being central to the argument of unfitness, seemed more a weak literary trick then a serious argument.

POTUS Trump will use “no” often.

Trump defies traditional models and is impossible to pigeon hole. I hunger for “fundamental change” in the direct opposite direction of Obama.

Predicting specifics of this or that policy is pointless. I trust the mans fervent desire for America to be a “winner” once again. And I have confidence that Trump and I have similar ideas of what that means.

219 posted on 11/21/2015 5:20:00 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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I forgive him everything as long as he shuts the border, kicks out illegals and negotiates well with our allies and adversaries. It looks to me that he will.

Most of cooks stuff are arguments about how trump handled crap sandwich questions.


225 posted on 11/21/2015 5:42:52 AM PST by ckilmer (q)
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[Convince me I wrong.]

You drove by and dropped that off so fast to convince you of anything but...’I will be looking into that’.


226 posted on 11/21/2015 5:43:08 AM PST by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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I think I’m voting for Ted Cruz after hearing Trump support ethanol, wind power and govt. college subsidies at the same Iowa event.

Love Trump but I’m starting to wear down with this stuff.


227 posted on 11/21/2015 5:50:01 AM PST by SteveAustin
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Didn’t Trump raise his hand when asked if he would forgo pledging to support the eventual Republican nominee? I for one like the idea of a strong leader who is willing to listen. The evidence so far is that he listening to Coulter and Sessions. Immigration (sic) is the ONLY issue that matters in this election.


228 posted on 11/21/2015 5:55:03 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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You’ve made up your mind about Trump. It’s not my job to convince you otherwise. Every hit piece posted, every Bill Kristol, every George Will, every poll supposedly showing Trump has peaked only make it plain to me that my vote for Donald Trump is well placed.


229 posted on 11/21/2015 5:55:07 AM PST by navymom1
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