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Obama pokes Putin, says jet shoot-down part of ‘ongoing problem’ with Russians
The Washington Times ^ | 24 Nov 15 | Dave Boyer

Posted on 11/24/2015 2:35:31 PM PST by SkyPilot

President Obama said the shoot-down "points to an ongoing problem with the Russian operations" in Syria, including attacks against moderate Syrian opposition groups near the Turkish border.

If Russia were going after the Islamic State instead, Mr. Obama said, such mistakes "are less likely to occur." He said it’s important for Turkish and Russian officials to communicate and to "discourage any kind of escalation."

French President Francois Hollande called the incident "a serious one."

"We must prevent an escalation," he said.

Mr. Obama said the U.S. is still gathering facts of the shoot-down, but said Turkey "has a right to defend its territory and its airspace."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: insane; insanity; nato; obama; russia; turkey
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To: Bon mots

Agree they should have been dumped from NATO. Moreover, I think now more than ever there is a serious question about whether you can form alliances with Muslim nations when it’s likely you’ll have to fight other Muslims.


21 posted on 11/24/2015 2:46:15 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SkyPilot

Get out of the big cities asap. Our moron in chief is trying to get Americans killed with his islamo loving ways.

We need leadership now before Russia become the new America.


22 posted on 11/24/2015 2:46:25 PM PST by soycd
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To: Travis McGee

Fox said 30 seconds, said the Turks gave a dozen warnings and the Russian plane ignored.


23 posted on 11/24/2015 2:46:58 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Bon mots
Turkey should have been kicked out of NATO when they refused us flyover rights in our little tussle with Iraq a few years back.

Amen. Isn't is convenient for the Turks to suddenly "remember" they are member of NATO when it suits their own selfish interests.

Some "ally."

24 posted on 11/24/2015 2:47:00 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
0bama has been trying to start WWIII for a long time now. I posted this a few days after the Benghazi attack.

0bama Starts WWIII

The move is on to consolidate the Muslim world under the Muslim Brotherhood.

People still believe 0bama's foreign policy is simply bumbling and incompetence.

0bama has set Israel up the bomb...

Sept. 11, 2012

Netanyahu gets the cold shoulder.

U.S. has no right to block Israel on Iran: Netanyahu

The embassy in Cairo puts out an apology for a movie most of the rioters know nothing about.

Former deputy national security adviser: US response to embassy attack 'bizarre and unacceptable'

0bama sent a letter to Tehran assuring them that the U.S. will do nothing to help Israel. That takes that off of the table removing a big worry for them that might have made them think twice. Iran is good to go now with 0bama's blessing.

We don't support Israeli attack, US tells Iran

The "movie" turns out to be a red herring excuse to cover for the rioters.

CNN: Protests against film a 'diversion. Attack was planned'

Quite a day of unfortunate coincidences. Israel was rebuffed and there were signals being sent to the MB and Iran. 0bama is giving the "go ahead" to the Muslim world to take out Israel.

Obama Admin Transferred 3,000 Detainees to Afghan Gov't Control Day Before 9/11

UNREAL... Obama Invites Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood President to Meet Next Week; Refuses to Meet Netanyahu

The White House hands Iran's Ahmadinejad a global megaphone

REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines

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CNN: Protests against film a 'diversion. Attack was planned'

Egypt intelligence warns (on Sept 4th) of attacks on Israel, US embassies

Congress was warned about Libya last month

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U.S. denies premeditation report
"The Obama administration is flatly denying a blaring British newspaper report that the U.S. diplomats in Libya were killed as a result of a "continuing security breach," and that "credible information" about possible attacks had been ignored. A U.S. official told POLITICO: "There's no intelligence indicating that the attack in Benghazi was premeditated.""

Is that all incompetence? Or did it take planning to make all that happen?
Cloward &; Pliven strategy and community organizing on a global scale?

This isn't just about getting re-elected, that's certainly a side benefit, this is about the big enchilada. No more Israel. The United States of the Muslim Brotherhood in the ME. ie the new Caliphate.


25 posted on 11/24/2015 2:47:33 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: SkyPilot

Here’s what Obozo is doing today..Unfreakinbelievable

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-recognizes-17-nations-highest-civilian-award-082036049.html#


26 posted on 11/24/2015 2:47:56 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: LS
We're back to Hitler vs. Stalin.

You are probably more right than you know.

27 posted on 11/24/2015 2:47:58 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

Barry’s schtick may work with the fawning US media, but I fear what it may end up doing abroad.

He basically told Putin: “Hey Dude, get over it. That’s what you get for lying about attacking ISIS.”

Putin is essentially a mobster...he won’t just brush that off.

Problem is the US doesn’t have the ‘high ground’ here - as our mythical ‘moderate rebels’ are obviously overlapped with ISIS.


28 posted on 11/24/2015 2:48:09 PM PST by lacrew
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To: SkyPilot

PUTIN will you invite obuma for dinner?

But it’s a one way ticket, don’t send him back here!!!


29 posted on 11/24/2015 2:48:12 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: LS

It was a jet, not a helicopter. 30 seconds? And they just happened to have an F-16 right there with a firing solution at the ready. Very doubtful. My instinct says missile ambush, waiting for the jet to inter that spur. And I’ll bet that last track was parallel to a standard flight path in and out. Let’s see the radar tracks of the last week, they have them.


30 posted on 11/24/2015 2:49:28 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SkyPilot

The sad reality is that Obama just does not care. He wants to leave a MESS for the next President to have to clean up.


31 posted on 11/24/2015 2:51:29 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SkyPilot

maybe Putin will rid us of Obama


32 posted on 11/24/2015 2:51:45 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: Travis McGee

From what I am hearing this was almost a ‘regularly scheduled’ incursion where the Russians routinely flew across this small part of Turkish airspace despite repeated warnings from Turkey not to do this. It was then no big deal to have Turkish forces ready and waiting for another incursion to teach Ivan a lesson.

Key West, Florida is about the same size as this little bit of Turkey (maybe even smaller) and if the Russians repeatedly flew armed fighters over it don’t you think even Obama would eventually get around to shooting one down?


33 posted on 11/24/2015 2:52:49 PM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: SkyPilot

What a first class asshole. The good rebels he is trying to protect want a wahabbist theocracy, scream allah Akbar, shoot at pilots in parachutes and cooperate with ISIS.

That is who he supports. Russia is right to bomb all opponents to Assad. If Assad falls, its 100% guaranteed to be an ISIS dominated government.

I never thought id see the day that the US president was a skinny homosexual Marxist moslem, and the the Russian leader would be rebuilding churches destroyed by the Bolsheviks and stand for common morals.


34 posted on 11/24/2015 2:53:24 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Original Lurker

How do you know they’re his daughters?


35 posted on 11/24/2015 2:53:48 PM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: butlerweave
Putin is not going to take Obama trying to make fun of him kindly

Exactly. Putin is a ruthless man. He has had journalists murdered, political opponents poisoned, and has arrested (or worse) anyone that has crossed him.

The Russians understand and respect one thing - force.

Putin would not have lasted 10 seconds in Russian politics if he were not completely ruthless.

Obama is so full of the narrative the media and his synchophants have woven for him that he actually believes the false narrative now.

That is completely dangerous. We have a madman in charge.

36 posted on 11/24/2015 2:54:05 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Jim Robinson

And/or he is the anti-Christ.


37 posted on 11/24/2015 2:54:42 PM PST by uncitizen (Pray for Donald Trump)
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To: Nervous Tick

We have to put up with this nonsense for about another year.


38 posted on 11/24/2015 2:55:24 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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39 posted on 11/24/2015 2:55:46 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: lacrew
He basically told Putin: "Hey Dude, get over it. Thats what you get for lying about attacking ISIS." Putin is essentially a mobster...he wont just brush that off.

That's the situation in a nutshell.

40 posted on 11/24/2015 2:56:31 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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