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Ted Cruz Salvation
Ted Cruz Bold Declaration? ^ | Jason Wert

Posted on 12/30/2015 3:58:46 AM PST by theoldmarine

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To: theoldmarine

I’m not trying to elect someone who is a Christian. I strongly doubt we have had very many Christian presidents. I DO want to elect someone who respects Christianity.


81 posted on 12/30/2015 8:37:54 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: IMR 4350

You people are unbelievable. You just keep sliming away with both hands. Think harder, and maybe you’ll remember me saying I don’t like guns either.

I’ve never mentioned Flashdance in any post whatsoever. But don’t let that stop a good smear; what are facts where a no good Trumpanzee is concerned.


82 posted on 12/30/2015 8:41:08 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I must have missed the part in the Bible where those who smoke in this life will smoke in the next as well. Too bad about CS Lewis...guess he’s burning in hell. Smoke AND drank.

And while I hate tattoos, I know Christians who have them.


83 posted on 12/30/2015 8:42:12 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: IMR 4350

I’ve never mentioned porn/pornography in any post either, but don’t let that stop you.


84 posted on 12/30/2015 8:44:40 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Mr Rogers

For what seems like the ten thousandth time, I have never met an evangelical who promotes smoking.

That happens to be the truth. I’ve met countless evangelicals who are anti smoking. I’ve never met one who promotes it.

You’re now free to accuse me of being a liberal, and whatever other smear you might enjoy.


85 posted on 12/30/2015 8:47:49 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I’m an evangelical, and I don’t care if someone smokes. Don’t care if someone drinks in moderation. And a baptist preacher told me once that “You don’t preach against smoking in South Carolina, and you don’t preach against drinking wine in California”. Neither is sinful, at least not if one pays attention to scripture.

Nor is Cruz “promoting” smoking or tattoos.

“Fantasywriter” is a good screen name for you.


86 posted on 12/30/2015 8:56:45 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mr Rogers

So you can display, sell and profit off the depiction of cigarettes without endorsing them.

Got it.

Surely your church also displays a nude, tattooed pic of Jesus with a cigarette dangling from His lips. No doubt those are very popular pics in evangelical churches.


87 posted on 12/30/2015 9:04:41 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Mr Rogers

‘”Fantasywriter” is a good screen name for you.’

I’d have imagined you were the one individual too sharp to go for the cheap shot/ad hominem. This Cruz campaign is disabusing me of so many misconceptions.


88 posted on 12/30/2015 9:08:21 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

“Surely your church also displays a nude, tattooed pic of Jesus with a cigarette dangling from His lips.”

You’ve got problems. Sorry to hear you feel the need to make your personal problems public.

Please cite where God’s Word condemns cigarettes or drinking wine in moderation.

And please show where Ted Cruz has endorsed a brand of cigarettes, said smoking is great and everyone should do it, or opened a tattoo parlor.

“Fantasywriter” fits.


89 posted on 12/30/2015 9:11:10 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Fantasywriter

I’ve met countless evangelicals who are anti smoking. I’ve never met one who promotes it.


Now you made me think. Maybe we should.

I am looking at my old pipe right now that I haven’t used in 30 years. I have many fond memories of it. Quiet moments for reflection and thinking about God. The movement of the smoke. The smell of the match. The pleasant aroma of the tobacco from the pouch as well as the pipe.

One full pipe of tobacco BEFORE each posting might improve my comments and reduce my drive by posting. Maybe we should promote it.


90 posted on 12/30/2015 9:11:35 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: theoldmarine
His faith statements are all over the place. If you haven't heard, then you haven't been listening. You won't find a hard sit-down, but it is interspersed in many interviews. Examples:

New Christian Voices Series: Ted Cruz

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2013/february/ted-cruz-a-lifeline-for-the-conservative-party/?mobile=false

91 posted on 12/30/2015 9:14:40 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Mr Rogers

‘Please cite where God’s Word condemns cigarettes or drinking wine in moderation.’

Oh, I’ll be happy to do this. Just as soon, that is, as you quote and link where (1) I say I am personally against smoking and drinking in moderation, and (2) where I cited the Bible as condemning one or the other.

Honestly, you are far, far less intelligent than I had given you credit for. All this time I have been reporting my personal experiences with ***evangelicals.***

And you are even more clueless than the rest.

SMH.


92 posted on 12/30/2015 9:22:59 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: theoldmarine
Here we go again, not his personal witness but ‘seeing God at work in his family, in other words his father’s salvation, not his own:

That's pretty harsh. I have witnessed YHWH moving mountains in my family too - Miracles. That certainly stands as proof to me (in my own self), and has a tremendous integral effect on my faith. As does the healing I have experienced in my physical body... That I declare these things, or that he declares these things, stands toward faith, not against it.

93 posted on 12/30/2015 9:23:19 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: cripplecreek
The fact that progressive Trump has chosen to team up with Santorum and Huckabee on this says all I need to know about Trump.

EXACTLY.

94 posted on 12/30/2015 9:24:10 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

You could try promoting smoking around some of the evangelicals I have personally known. But let’s just say I wouldn’t want to be you, if you did.


95 posted on 12/30/2015 9:24:38 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: theoldmarine
Donald Trump appears to be a ‘cultural Christian, not an evangelical as far as the Christian faith goes. That’s fine. I really don’t know about his actual belief system.

Riiight. Because owning casinos and titty bars doesn't tell you anything at all about his belief system.

96 posted on 12/30/2015 9:29:19 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Politicalkiddo
This is effing despicable.

Yes, it most certainly is.

97 posted on 12/30/2015 9:33:58 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Fantasywriter
Evangelicals are supposed to base belief on the Bible. Many, of course, do fall into the trap of basing their beliefs on their culture. But that is a fault, and the fact that some fall into it has nothing to do with one being an evangelical or not.

I can think of where we are told not to slander others or misrepresent their views. And I also cannot think of a single time where Ted Cruz has recommended anyone take up smoking. The pictures are CARTOONS, meant to show he is a "bad boy" in the eyes of the DC establishment.

98 posted on 12/30/2015 9:38:31 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Fantasywriter; PeterPrinciple

“You could try promoting smoking around some of the evangelicals I have personally known. But let’s just say I wouldn’t want to be you, if you did.”

Haven’t spent much time in the Carolinas, eh?

I’ve told Baptist preachers more than once that it is Islam that condemns all smoking and drinking, not Jesus. They have yet to faint or try to throw me out of the church. Of course, there was the time I visited a small Baptist church in Texas carrying a “New English Bible” and heard that real Christians used the KJV only...thought I was going to have to fight my way out that Sunday!


99 posted on 12/30/2015 9:42:30 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mr Rogers

So you can display, sell and profit off the depiction of cigarettes without endorsing them.

Got it.


100 posted on 12/30/2015 9:45:54 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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