Posted on 01/03/2016 5:07:32 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
Obama made it abuntly clear that he would sign the Iran deal as a “deal” with executive action. Would it have been illegal as hell? Of course, but when has THAT stopped him? Corker was a travesty of a bill, but it gave the Congress the chance at a vote, something they would not have had before (with this lawless president). Furthermore, it gave the HOUSE a vote, putting another road block in the way. The language was even convoluted enough to allow for the current argument of “we can’t vote we don’t have the full “deal” text.” Corker provided a chance at a fight. Doing nothing would have allowed the President to skate, again.
So my question is: why are we always decrying the Congress for not stopping Obama but then pissing and moaning about the one thing they actually tried to stop him?
Also, you hero Trump said he would “keep the good parts” of the Iran deal and wait to see if they broke the rules”. Cruz has consistently said that the deal is illegal and he will remove the US on day 1.
The person you say you want me to vote for does not exist. There is a choice between doing nothing and doing something. One something is much less evil than the other something and doing nothing assures that the worse something will happen. Not preventing the worse something from happening is nuts. D-Day was awful but there was a worse something than doing nothing, I will stick with that option and beat this dead horse no more.
Been Fun Norm. Great to have long threads once more but my short term memory is failing and I am getting dyslexic on short words.
Wow you have done a great job of helping Trump and exposing Cruz by showing all us Christians what heretics we are for not being a religious bigot just like you. Great job moron! You just had to bring your judgmental religious hatred into this. Let me remind you we have a radical muslim Marxist in the WH and one of satans girlfriends leading the Dem ticket....and you want to divide us over your asshat religious hatred of other Christians. What you wrote has to take the grand prize for stupidity on FR!
What denomination are you? I think I know but want to hear it from you.
Apparently not all can read. And stop with the name calling.
Voting for anyone other than a liberal is not doing nothing.
True. Also, I think Nugent is a Trump supporter, so you know, anything goes as long as you're on the Trump train.
There are doctrines that really should be hated. The Word of Faith, Prosperity, materialistic crap of the Dominionists is one such example.
In all fairness,, that’s how you act about Cruz.
the old Manhattanite can go back to his penthouse and put together his administration.
Sure.
but it gave the Congress the chance at a vote, something they would not have had before (with this lawless president)
The vote was rigged to subvert the margin of votes needed for a treaty so that the votes required to defeat the vote was the same as required to adopt the treaty. Just opposite of what you think.
So my question is: why are we always decrying the Congress for not stopping Obama but then pissing and moaning about the one thing they actually tried to stop him?
That fake vote assured they could not stop it just opposite of what you seem to believe. Crooked politicians have made the art of deception their best tool for making money and keeping their teat sucking positions.
Guess why electing lesser evils is a bad idea.
Answer: your post explains it exactly.
“Crooked politicians have made the art of deception their best tool for making money and keeping their teat sucking positions.”
Exactly.
I didn't call you a name but I did call your logic B$ which it is. So I won't stop calling B$ on that tripe.
see tagIHOP and Vineyard churches have nothing to do with The Word of Faith, Prosperity Gospel teachings, or the materialistic crap of the Dominionists, quite the opposite. You obviously know nothing about IHOP or Vineyard churches and are just repeating bull you have heard, the gall of your ignorance is YUGE.
I know lots of people in Vineyard churches and in IHOP affiliated churches, these are wholehearted Godly believers. How dare you compare them with Copeland and the prosperity snakes fleecing the sheep.
What are you after, that only Christians who believe exactly what you do vote for Trump? Trump would be beat by Yeb and Lindsey then! Don’t think Donald will appreciate your stupidity.
Now what denomination are you or are to ashamed to be public about it?
From CARM:
There are certainly many different theological distinctives in the Christian church, and many of us do differ. However, we do not go so far as to label each other cults or heretics. On the other hand, IHOP has been labeled dangerous, cultic, false, and heretical by many ministries, former members, apologetic groups, and godly men. In fact, other charismatic Christians have stood up to oppose them as well. A small listing of these groups include:
The Apologetics Index
Apologetics Resource Center
Critical Issues Commentary
Pastor Ernie Gruen (a Charismatic preacher) who was written a manuscript entitled “Documentation of the Aberrant Practices and Teachings of Kansas City
Fellowship (Grace Ministries).†Kansas City Fellowship (Grace Ministries) is Mike Bickles former ministry prior to founding IHOP.
Pastor Bill Randles (a Pentecostal preacher) has written a book titled, “Weighed and Found Wanting.â€
The Gospel Masquerade is a website created by a former staff member of IHOP.
All these resources are available in the references section. I especially recommend The Gospel Masquerade website, Pastor Gruen’s manuscript, and Pastor Randles’ book.
More here: https://carm.org/ihop
Still, and so, since he [Nugent] is held harmless, hypocrisy abounds.
That a charitable moment is thus abused is the most scurrilous and opportunist of actions. Stunningly shameless, but sadly the norm for this crowd... Such a stain.
Matt Slick is as slick as they come, Slick has been exposed for what he is, don’t waste my time. I can post links all day giving this side of what is heretical and I am sure you can post your side all day long too. You aren’t teaching me anything sonny, I know where I stand with Jesus Christ and I have worshiped in a IHOP and a Vineyard church and have friends in both, so save your nonsense for a thread on your brand of your denominational junk for that, I don’t want to play. You can believe what you want doctrinally, I don’t care. Got it?!
You are doing a disservice to Donald Trump in your religious hatred and haven’t proved squat heretically wrong about Cruz. Those are the points I am making. Trump wants the support of the very people you are so happily bashing in this thread and you think you have accomplished something worthwhile...gee get a clue! I am a solid Trump supporter and think you have written the stupidest thing ever on FR. How is that not sinking in? Are you that dense?
Have you noticed that there are not a bunch of Trump supporters here backing you in this thread? See if you can figure out why?
Do you have a clue how many Americans are Charismatic Christians? Are conservative? Consistently vote Republican? Without them nobody wins! Duh! Aren’t you brilliant!
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/matt-slick-exposed.htm
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/matt_slick_doubletalk.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNiRsyEiv14
You are also too cowardly to name your denomination and I know why.
This conservative supports Trump and there are millions more like me, watch what comes!
Looking at the videos, your guy seems to be raving about Matt Slick being a Calvinist. CARM is a respected ministry, and is not on par with IHOP and it's "holy laughter," "drunk in the spirit," flopping on the floor like a fish kind of stuff.
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