Posted on 01/12/2016 11:49:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
There’s always downballot voting.
CRuz should’ve taken Trump’s advice....to (immediately) get the Declaratory Judgement. Then whatever yurtle the turtle and Rinse Prius say, wouldn’t matter.
It was a pre-emptive runaround. (Assuming the court would side with CRuz, of course. Which, if he has all of the required, supporting docs....no problemo.)
Yes, but sadly I live in the liberal hell hole near our nations governmental abyss.
So that answer must settle the question once and for all
CONGRESS is more afraid of CRUZ than they are of TRUMP. Gall-lee! Wait till they find Cruz is still in the building, better than ever in kicking a$$
Go TRUMP
Go CRUZ
We want the two of yous
Make AMERICA GREAT for GREAT AMERICANS
(A Senste resolution would be meaningless on the law anyway). What McConnell has just done is nothing more than to confirm what a useless ass he is. Hopefully we can get a much better person in that job ASAP
The only question is a con law question. Does a person who is not a citizen under the constitution, but is made a citizen at birth by an act of congress, a natural born citizen under the constitution?
Popular opinion, including by "learned legal scholars" is either that this question is unsettled law, or is answered in the affirmative.
the difference is that both Barry Goldwater and John McCain were born in U.S. territories; Cruz was born on Canadian soil.
Bitter turtle will soon be served at the local diner -in a soup bowl. It’s not soup yet, but he’s up to his neck in hot water. How I despise that creature; and I like turtles.
What party was Trump in back then?
The question is this — is a person born of one parent who is American on a foreign soil, a natural born citizen?
Some say ‘Yes’, some say ‘No’.
Who’s to decide?
This is not a viable argument. It is a deflection. Trump can be Satan himself and it does not change the fact that Ted Cruz was born in Canada.
It does not change the fact that James Madison INTENTIONALLY took the words “natural born citizen” out of the 1790 Act when he chaired the committee for the 1795 Act.
You need to stop defending Cruz as Cruz and look at it as if Charles Manson were in the same position. Because the next candidate that fits the same mold of citizenship could be far far far worse than Obama.
“The question is this â is a person born of one parent who is American on a foreign soil, a natural born citizen? Some say âYesâ, some say âNoâ. Whoâs to decide?”
that is indeed the issue, and as far as I can tell, it has NOT yet been decided one way or the other. Common sense says NO, or otherwise why would the founders bother to put that specific qualification in for President and for no other office. However, presumably the US Supreme Court would ultimately decide, but they are at least as corrupt as the rest of the government, so flipping a coin would give a result equally as valid as anything coming out of the Supreme Court.
Yeah, but you still can’t tell me what James Madison actually intended. Only what the experts assume he didn’t mean in 1795.
A naturalized citizen can qualify for a U.S. passport.
My children were born in England while I was stationed there and I obtained a certificate of birth from the Embassy. I consider them NBC so I am not a birther nut. What bothers me is the mystery of whether or not Cruz is NBC and that I suppose hinges on whether or not his mother became a Canadian citizen before Ted was born.
Until I know for sure I cannot in clear conscience vote for Cruz even though I like him very much. Equally disturbing is Cruz stating that he was unaware of his dual citizenship status prompting him to renounce Canada when he decided to be a Senator.
There is no way to know WHY he removed it. All that can be done is look at what he did. He removed the clause.
He didn’t want it there.
And that is significant.
You know what, that completely missed my view! Duh! You are correct, the only evidence that will establish citizen at birth is either a CRBA, or a Certificate of Citizenship.
-- Until I know for sure I cannot in clear conscience vote for Cruz --
I'm confident he'll produce his CRBA when it best suits his needs. You can't be the only one who "wonders," and most in that spot will accept that a CRBA = NBC.
Cruz has friends in no places.
"No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a citizen of one of the States or hereafter be born a citizen of the United States"
James Madison himself said: "It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other."
For further reading on the founders views of a Natural Born citizen with extensive quotes, with the clear conclusion Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen: http://www.redstate.com/2012/05/21/on-this-natural-born-citizen-issue-part-i-from-alexander-hamilton-to-lynch-v-clarke/
Working better with .. is not the problem.
Prince is TERRIFIED OF CRUZ.
And .. McConnell will do whatever Prince tells him to do.
they’re both idiots.
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