Posted on 01/12/2016 11:49:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
As an Army brat I knew kids who were born in Germany in U.S. hospitals while their Dads were stationed there. They joked that at age 18 they would receive draft notices from the West German Bundeswehr, as the FRG supposedly regarded them as dual citizens.
There’s two legal terms regarding citizenship that I haven’t heard yet but were well known to DOD dependents:
“Jus soli”: the law of the soil; you’re born on sovereign U.S. territory OR its equivalent, you’re a citizen.
“Jus sanguinis”: the law of blood relation: you’re born of an American parent who is a citizen, you’re a U.S. citizen.
Which I am afraid makes Obama a citizen since his mother was undoubtedly an American no matter where she birthed him. Of course, Obama’s eligibility is less an issue IMHO than his attitude toward this country which is globalist and hostilely foreign.
That said, I cannot imagine that a Constitutional scholar with the stature of Ted Cruz hasn’t studied the issue of his citizenship down to the minutest detail.
Anyway, McConnell cannot...possibly...suck...enough!
I looked up "uniparty" and got a lot of Facebook nonsense.
What is shocking is that you think that I am against Cruz. It appears that you deliberately misunderstand my words. Coming from you that is neither shocking nor surprising.
Go roar at some other cloud.
I didn't think you were against Cruz.
I included you in the ping because I want other Cruz Supporting FReepers to be included.
Coming from you that is neither shocking nor surprising.
How is what you thought I meant Neither Shocking Nor Surprising!?
When did I ever say that would make someone think I was going against Senator Cruz?
How is what you thought I meant Neither Shocking Nor Surprising!?
When did I ever say that would make someone think I was going against Senator Cruz?
:o) I guess there were odd moments of misunderstanding. Mea culpa for my part. For your part: ROAR!
Regarding the possibility of Cruz’ mom getting Canadian citizenship before Ted was born:
Not possible.
She wasn’t in Canada long enough; she had been there only 4 years when Ted was born, and the requirement was 5 years.
O’s mom was too young to convey US citizenship to him & 0’s birth cert is a fake.
Therefore o isn’t a citizen; he won’t show a legit doc to show where he was born.
Did the dads of which you speak have American wives or German?
In either case, did the dads file paperwork to establish the US citizenship status of their children?
Thank You.
Good point. Cruz blasting anyone who says he isn't a citizen is very telling.
Cruz says he is a citizen but he CANNOT be considered a natural born citizen; he is a citizen by virtue of statute.
His birth in Canada indicates he has THREE countries (The US via his mother, Canada his birthplace, and Cuba thru his father) having a legitimate claim on his allegiance from birth, whether he wanted it or not.
Our constitution and the rule of law must prevail. We should not yield to the same dark impulses of expediency and delusion that gave us the tyrannical sociopathic usurper demagogue Obama.
Choosing candidates who are creatures of the cult of personality has proved disastrous.
If we, the people, accept anything less than the constitution's original intent, frightening scenarios would unfold. Such as allowing the offspring of an American who joined ISIS and birthed a child in the Mideast w/ say, a Syrian, to claim eligibility for the office.
It was not until a 2013 Dallas Morning News article that Cruz acknowledged his Canadian citizenry publicly. In 2014, the senator publicly renounced his Canadian citizenship altogether.
Cruz consistently depicted himself as "latino" Yet his family bgrnd indicates only his father is Spanish; his mother is of two nationalities, Italian and Irish from each of her parents.
Cruz ran in Texas as a latino (which has a wealth of latino votes). Cruz even convinced the Senate biographer that he was the first latino elected to the Senate (besides Rubio).
As the immigration issue grew negative in the world of politics, being known as a latino has lost its luster.
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WIKI The 1803 edition of William Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, perhaps the leading authority for the delegates to the Constitutional Convention for the terms used in the Constitution, noted that the natural born citizen clause is "a means of security against foreign influence" and that "[t]he admission of foreigners into our councils, consequently, cannot be too much guarded against."
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NOTE At the time, King George, and lordly England, were the colonists' boogeymen. It was feared the wealthy Brits could surreptitiously buy their way into our new country's councils and wreak havoc.
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OLD THINGS SEEM SUDDENLY NEW AGAIN Cruz's wife is a Goldman Sachs exec.
Mrs Cruz served on the North American Union task force, and supported their report called---'Building a North American Community."
The North/South border effort was sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations in association with the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales.
Translated into English, that means forget US sovereignty....just eradicate US borders.
Canada is under the jurisdiction of England.
I wish this issue would just stop. 0bama made it moot. Actually, let’s call him the Kenyan.
Oh. And I support Trump.
Not at all.
Why can Mc-Conman do this? Because he has a revered creep — Professor Laurence Tribe, undermining Cruz [regarding natural born status].
Tribe is a creep, Mc-Conman is a creep, and they flock together.
The key to unraveling this is to completely obliterate Tribe’s aura of intellectual ‘superiority’.
If Cruz can’t do it, NO ONE can. He made a little stab at it here:
Ted Cruz: Are Democrats Behind Trump’s Citizenship Questions? [where he riducules Trump for quoting Tribe]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3382891/posts
Cruz should challenge Tribe to a fair debate [no moderators, just a timer] and tear the guy open. Until he does that or something equally effective, this issue will fester.
So why do you help elect leftists then?
It would really be EVIL if Mc-Conman does the opposite — pass a bipartizan resolution declaring Cruz is NOT eligibible to sabotage him AFTER the primary.
I would not put it past the creep.
‘I wish this issue would just stop.’
I agree.
‘0bama made it moot.’
I disagree.
It’s even easier for judges to stall their court decisions than for Mc-Conman to look like a hypocrite. They do that kind of BS all the time. It’s sick. We can’t trust them.
I’m sorry you arent smart enough to realize that by voting for conservatives one is working against leftists like the guy that BBQs the dead and dismembered babies his own laws help him profit from. But you have always been a bit dim when it comes to the obvious.And a bit more leftist.
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