Houston attorney asks Supreme Court to rule Ted Cruz ineligible for presidency

The Dallas Morning News ^ | January 15, 2016 | Bobby Blanchard

[CpnHook]

show a trumpster the law and the trumpster ignores it.

The statute you cite merely states that a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen under the stated circumstances is a citizen at birth. It doesn't say he is a natural born citizen. And what I've quoted from the U.S. Supreme Court states, contrary to your belief, that citizenship granted to children born abroad is an act of naturalization!

Got it now? Or do you need further instruction?

[itsahoot]

now go get obsessed by some other conspiracy invented by a lefty

Cruz will never be President so what are you yapping about?

[itsahoot]

Showing me that Cruz's mother was a citizen doesn't solve your problem when the SCOTUS has stated that even when a person (like Ted Cruz) is born outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. (like in Canada) to a U.S. citizen parent (like Eleanor Darragh) such child is a citizen only by way of naturalization (like the statute by which Cruz was a citizen at birth).

There has been an intensive effort on FR to convince people that Citizen equals Natural Born Citizen and apparently many have bought into that argument. The fact that there are several seemingly contradictory opinions of what Constitutes NBC leads to a lot of confusion, most of which arose out of the defense of Obama's so called NBC status. It pains me to see Freepers try and Justify Ted Cruz as an NBC just because Obama got away with it.

I was hoping this cr@p story would go away until after a couple primaries were done and the issue would be moot.

Holding my tongue until
after Iowa-New Hampshire
Well at least trying.

[RginTN]

Congress makes immigration laws. Deal with it.

[RginTN]

are you a psychic????

[sakic]

It is political warfare between Cruz and Trump. If you think that equals an alliance, you understand neither term.

[CpnHook]

There has been an intensive effort on FR to convince people that Citizen equals Natural Born Citizen and apparently many have bought into that argument.

In fairness, quite a number of supposed "scholarly" articles have been published that equate "citizen at birth" with NBC. So I can't blame Cruz supporters initially.

It pains me to see Freepers try and Justify Ted Cruz as an NBC just because Obama got away with it.

It may cause heads to explode, but Obama being born in the U.S. makes him unquestionably NBC, whereas Cruz being born in Canada, under existing SCOTUS decisions, isn't.

[CpnHook]

Congress makes immigration laws. Deal with it.

And Congress making immigration laws is an exercise of its powers of naturalization .

It's unclear whether you simply can't comprehend this or whether you're simply in denial.

[RginTN]

typical liberal...show them the law and they ignore it.

yes Congress makes immigrations laws. Don’t like what it says, too bad

[CpnHook]

show them the law and they ignore it.

I've shown you several times what the U.S. Supreme Court has said and how that destroys your argumen. And you've ignored it.

You must be looking in the mirror when you make your lame ad hominem arguments.

[RginTN]

I’ve cited the law passed by Congress. You’re playing word games cause you don’t like that law cited discredited your birther nonsense

FYi, the SC doesn’t legislate. Congress does. Its passed immigration laws. Can’t help you don’t understand Seperation of Powers

[itsahoot]

are you a psychic????

Just a realist.

[CpnHook]

Cruz can argue that Obama being allowed to be POTUS in spite of legal confirmation that he has no legally-valid US birth certificate sets a precedent for a foreign-born person to be POTUS.

Then by the same logic Presidents 1 through 43 are precedent that offering a birth certificate isn't a necessary condition for the Presidency in the first place. That argument goes nowhere.

In a case where Ted Cruz is the defendant, NO judge anywhere is going to entertain any party trying to talk about Obama -- who isn't a party to the case. It's irrelevant.

[butterdezillion]

There was legal verification that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid. He does not have a valid US birth certificate. That means whatever birth certificate he’s been using his whole life, it isn’t from the US. That was known and yet he was allowed to be inaugurated after the 2012 election. This isn’t about having to present a birth certificate; it’s about it being known the only BC he could present is a non-US one. If that’s OK for Obama, Cruz can certainly argue that it’s OK for him too. If Cruz presents it as his argument and Trump accepts those facts, what is the judge gonna do about it?

[holden]

There was legal verification that Obama's HI BC is legally non-valid.

While that is almost certainly correct, I don't believe it has been a holding of any court, such that any other court could or would use it as a precedent or established fact, upon which to base any subsequent decision.

If Onaka and/or Fuddy were able to be deposed, the fact you cite could be addressed and possibly established before the court.

HF

[butterdezillion]

Maybe the attorneys could give judicial notice of these facts. Clinton’s “Magnificent Eight” lawyer Robertson called a lawsuit frivolous because it had already been decided on Twitter, and Congress-critters and Judge Maliki used a forgery on the White House website as if it had some legal meaning, even though it had never even been submitted in court.

[holden]

Yes, there are those (lawyers, judges, and FR activists, e.g., two faves surely come to mind) who would build upon the flimsiest of whims to wedge their pet ideas in ways that sound jurisprudence would quickly expunge as improper judicial procedure, IMHO.

HF