Oregon Occupier Killed In Standoff Climax Preferred Death To Prison (Claims of Hand up & Unarmed)

TPM ^ | 27 Jan 16 | Rick Bowmer

[xzins]

Because they like leftists?

I do know that these folks had harmed nobody

[xzins]

And shot them?

[novemberslady]

bkmk

[PAR35]

" Finicum, who was shot, was trying to negotiate a surrender, but that is confirmed.

Confirmed by who?

[nothingnew]

Time will tell.

Maybe...maybe not.

FMCDH(BITS)

[FreedomStar3028]

The Feds did it to get the leaders out of the picture, and if necessary to show the rest of the group how serious they are. So now there are multiple militia type groups, with a leadership catastrophe, and a man dead. Who takes charge? What do they do?

Instead of the Feds just dropping it, or at least investigating it, or commuting the sentences, or some type of compromise with one of the reasonable leaders who probably aren’t going to be reasonable anymore you cannot predict what is going to happen.

[FreedomStar3028]

They probably got a face to face threat from the FBI. Get head out to so and so, you'll be pulled over by the Oregon State Sheriffs, or we can do it the other way.

[The All Knowing All Seeing Oz]

They were armed anarchists. How long would you have tolerated them if they were on property next door to you, but not these nuts, but rather the Black Lives Matter crowd demanding your property as payment for slavery.

[xzins]

They were armed anarchists. How long would you have tolerated them if they were on property next door to you, but not these nuts, but rather the Black Lives Matter crowd demanding your property as payment for slavery.

Are you referring to these people or to the Occupy movement?

[The All Knowing All Seeing Oz]

Of course that will be the claim, completely regardless of whatever the truth may be.

At this time, no one on the internet knows squat. Those who say they do, don’t

[xzins]

Read posts by Jeff Head, this thread.

[fruser1]

I don’t know the circumstance other than that.

I don’t think it was a Bonnie & Clyde style hit.

Other folks there arrested.

So I don’t know if it was justified or not.

I do note the government hypocrisy though, in the different treatment of those advocating freedom, vs those advocating communism (OWS) or reckless lawlessness (M Brown, Baltimore)

[driftdiver]

Not bowing down to the almighty government is worthy of being shot by those in power.

[piroque]

If I can find out any info on that I will of course share it.

Try and get us a heads up on the updates

[FreedomStar3028]

That’s different. Those are individual citizens > individual citizens. This is individual citizens > GOVERNMENT(The ones supposedly there to protect your rights, my rights, Bundy’s rights). If you had bothered to read up on the issues surrounding the Oregon situation you would know that the Ranchers had served PRISON sentences, came home, and some time later were told to go back to PRISON for another few YEARS for the same charge. The Feds were/are blatantly trying to seize the land. I don’t know how legitimate the claims are about minerals and uranium deposits being located on the land, however those men staging this did not seem unreasonable, raging, violent, or unwilling to accept compromise.

All the Feds had to do if they aren’t at fault is to release all the documents to the public and launch an investigation. Nope. Because there is surely SOMETHING that proves the feds are in the wrong. Otherwise, why not negotiate? No one is being harmed.

The people in the truck were surely recording the entire incident. The FBI/GOV are in the wrong on this one. Dead wrong.

If it is proved that the FBI shot first unprovoked will Oath’s be kept?

[FreedomStar3028]

Care to share the source?

Or is it an “Wish FR had an edit button” moment?

[AppyPappy]

Because the media was favorable. Occupy were “peaceful protesters”.
These were “militia”.
You can tell whether to like them by the way they are referred.

[mad_as_he$$]

Consider the source:

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/militant_shot_and_killed_while.html#incart_maj-story-1

[xzins]

Amen to that.

If you put up a tent and assault locals, shoplift, defecate in their streets, and copulate in public, then you are ok.

If you have your shotguns and rifles in a firefighter’s shack, then you are ‘militia’.

Copulaters is good, and rabbit hunters is bad.

[Mariner]

Who would not choose death over 25 years in a Federal prison?

Especially for somebody over 70yrs.