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Ted Cruz Isn't a 'Natural Born' Citizen
US News ^ | 1/27 | Robert Clinton

Posted on 01/27/2016 10:15:54 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution states: "No Person except a natural born Citizen ... shall be eligible to the Office of President." The original structure of the Constitution does suggest that "natural born" was meant to contain a geographic component of birth in the United States. The "Inhabitant" requirements for senators and representatives in Article I of the Constitution clearly were intended to be geographic. Since the qualifications stated for president contain no other obvious parallel geographic reference, it would seem the framers meant the "natural born" citizenship requirement for president to refer to those born geographically in the United States.

The framers, however, contemplated later migration into the United States and authorized Congress in Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 to provide means of acquiring citizenship by naturalization for those who were not natural born citizens. Thus, as originally drafted, the Constitution recognized only two means of acquiring national citizenship – "natural born" citizens (birthright citizenship), and naturalization.

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To: TangledUpInBlue

Natural Born Citizenship is citizenship derived by virtue of the circumstances of birth either Jus Soli (by the soil) or Jus Sanguinis (by the blood). It is citizenship not made by judicial ruling or Congressional act but in existence at the moment of birth. No naturalization required.

Ted Cruz has never been through a naturalization process in the US. He was a natural born citizen at birth (Jus Sanguinis) and eligible to be a US Senator (citizenship requirement), exercising all rights of citizenship without requiring naturalization.


21 posted on 01/27/2016 10:26:45 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Oxford Dictionary Second Edition

Volume X page 245

“1709 Act 7 Anne c. 5...The Children of all natural-born subjects, born out of the Liegeance of her Majesty...shall be deemed...to be natural-born Subjects of this Kingdom.”

That 1709 law was I believe what the founders would have gone by. Anne was Queen of England in 1709.


22 posted on 01/27/2016 10:26:46 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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After Obama, any TRUE patriotic conservative cares. I do.


23 posted on 01/27/2016 10:26:48 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel ("God only is my Rock and my Salvation; He is my Defence." (Psa 62:2))
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Give it a rest. You won’t convince anyone.


24 posted on 01/27/2016 10:27:25 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: SubMareener

Exactly.


25 posted on 01/27/2016 10:28:38 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

He didn’t need to be naturalized, therefore he is natural born. Duh.


26 posted on 01/27/2016 10:28:51 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: deport

Atlantic Coast Conference eligibility?


27 posted on 01/27/2016 10:29:31 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: BenLurkin
I care and I want to undo the damage.

Crazy, huh?

28 posted on 01/27/2016 10:29:33 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Soooo, if Trump names Cruz as his VP that will put you in a tight spot.

Can I presume you will drop your support for Trump based on your perception of his violating the Constitution?

Or will it all be OK after Trump has some really, really good Constitutional law people, that are super at that sorta stuff, look it over and deem Cruz to be OK?


29 posted on 01/27/2016 10:29:40 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SubMareener
Either Ted Cruz is a original-intent Constitutionalist and therefore ineligible to be President or he is a living-document Constitutionalist and eligible to be President. It is one or the other, but it can’t be both.

Original intent was to ensure that England (or France or Germany) couldn't simply ship over someone who was popular at home and have them seize the presidency.

As global travel of the period could involve years out of country, I sincerely doubt that the intention at any point would be to deny the children of those travelers their birthrights. If there was any question to that, the 1790 naturalization act answered that, citizenship is automatically inherited in the act of being born to citizens so long as the father was at least a resident.

So, original intent is verified through law of the time. Cruz is a naturally born citizen by original intent, and by later acts.

30 posted on 01/27/2016 10:29:59 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

This makes the most sense of any argument.


31 posted on 01/27/2016 10:30:28 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue
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To: struggle

That 1790 Act was repealed in 1795 with that definition specifically removed.


32 posted on 01/27/2016 10:30:54 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

“Naural born” means by nature. Geography has nothing to do with it. That is why a child born to two parents who are US citizens but stationed overseas in the military for instance, is a natural born citizen.That is also why arguing over where Obama was born was nonsensical. The framers of the Constitution would have asked not WHERE he was born, but to whom.

Here is the best explanation and analysis of the subject available in a concise and brief video by a renowned constitutional attorney and scholar:

http://youtu.be/esiZZ-1R7e8

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33 posted on 01/27/2016 10:31:07 AM PST by ppaul
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To: pgyanke
No, he was not a "natural born" citizen at birth, just a citizen.

There is a difference.

34 posted on 01/27/2016 10:32:28 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: deport

We should all agree that this needs to be resolved one way or the other. A suit has already been filed. Standing may require a candidate plaintiff. That remains to be seen but this is a continuing issue and we don’t just dogmatically wish it away. It will be resolved if he gets the nomination. In fact it may enter the court over whether the Canadian born Senator can be on a ballot for a state primary. There are several pending challenges opening— one in Utah. 35% of Republicans think it is an issue in Iowa. Let’s just find out instead of sticking our heads in the sand and quit guessing.


35 posted on 01/27/2016 10:32:29 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Kenny
WRONG. You don't know the naturalization process, do you?

Ted never went through that process because he was born a natural U.S. citizen due to a parent. My wife on the other hand, is a naturalized citizen. That is the difference.

36 posted on 01/27/2016 10:32:38 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: SampleMan

At the moment, I’d support Trump and/or Cruz. I’m just posting interesting articles to spur discussion. Don’t infer agreement with them on my part.


37 posted on 01/27/2016 10:32:48 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue
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To: redreno

You are correct.


38 posted on 01/27/2016 10:33:03 AM PST by ppaul
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To: TangledUpInBlue

A man made law gave him citizenship. If Cruz was born in 1930 he would not be a US citizen.


39 posted on 01/27/2016 10:33:37 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: GodGunsGuts

His status as a citizen is covered by the Naturalization Laws, therefore he is not natural born citizen.


40 posted on 01/27/2016 10:33:52 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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