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How did Iowa caucus polls get GOP vote so wrong?
New York Daily News ^ | February 2, 2016 | Dan Good, Adam Edelman

Posted on 02/02/2016 10:23:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Iowa pollsters' losses were Ted Cruz's gain Monday night, as even the most storied surveys of the Hawkeye State's electorate missed the Texas senator's surging momentum.

Cruz cruised to victory in the early-voting state's caucuses, easily beating bombastic billionaire Donald Trump 27.6% to 24.3%, with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio finishing a close third, with 23.1%.

But polls, even ones released just hours before voters headed to caucus-locations, showed Trump in the solid lead: A Quinnipiac University poll out Monday afternoon had Trump beating Cruz 31% to 24%, while a Des Moines Register / Bloomberg Politics survey out the day before had the outspoken mogul up 28% to 23%.

How did they get it so wrong?

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: caucus; cruz; gopprimary; iowa
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1 posted on 02/02/2016 10:23:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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A better question is how were the entrance polls so wrong?

Every one of them had people going into the caucus locations for Trump 27-23.


2 posted on 02/02/2016 10:25:49 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

because in Iowa you have your neighbors talking you into who to vote, and enough people didn’t want to be seen standing in the Trump corner with the rest of the mouth breathers.


3 posted on 02/02/2016 10:25:51 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

These the same polls that predicted a Romney victory in 2012?


4 posted on 02/02/2016 10:26:19 AM PST by Durbin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Simply put, polls are not information, polls are opinion swaying devices.


5 posted on 02/02/2016 10:26:28 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Easy--the MSM hung around the Donald Trump fireworks show way too much....
6 posted on 02/02/2016 10:26:48 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wishful thinking and ignoring some obvious signs of trouble.


7 posted on 02/02/2016 10:27:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A win in Iowa does not mean a win in the other states. Huckaby won Iowa in 2008 and Santorum won in 2012.


8 posted on 02/02/2016 10:27:19 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump says its the polls that matter most and he is at the top of them still.


9 posted on 02/02/2016 10:29:10 AM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait')
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perhaps some people don’t like to talk to pollsters and tend to share certain political leanings?


10 posted on 02/02/2016 10:29:48 AM PST by Darth Reardon (During the Great Depression, World War I was referred to as the Great War)
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To: Yo-Yo

GOP Iowa caucus is by secret vote.

http://www.iowacaucus.biz/ia_caucus_howitworks.html


11 posted on 02/02/2016 10:29:50 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

So did W

So did dole

so.. yes it means a win except when it doesn’t.


12 posted on 02/02/2016 10:29:51 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: over3Owithabrain
You should probably be directing this question at the Cruz campaign. they have some pretty good answers this morning.


13 posted on 02/02/2016 10:30:10 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Cruz cheated! [s]


14 posted on 02/02/2016 10:30:29 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think it’s difficult to accurately poll for a small turnout with a big field of candidates.

The total R votes last night was about 150,000 split among 5 major contenders.

Caliph Baraq got over 800,000 votes in Nov 2012.


15 posted on 02/02/2016 10:30:31 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: Blood of Tyrants

True ... But, this time around the GOP-E's McCain/Romney is Jeb Bush. Somehow I think it's a whole new ballgame this year.


16 posted on 02/02/2016 10:31:15 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Yo-Yo

My understanding is that the caucus votes are by secret ballot. It is the democrats that do that. But yes, a very persuasive speaker can sway caucus goers. Or given the known behavior of the establishment leaders in Mississippi and in Virginia, and other diverse places, a lot of fraud and manipulation and downright lying was going on. We know for instance, that the Cruz campaign lied about Carson’s withdrawing — a truly Romney-esque lie! I am quite certain that the elites don’t mind a Cruz win, they are going to take him out at the convention over his eligibility issues and give his delegates to an establishment (Bush?) candidate. I thik they will do the same with Rubio.


17 posted on 02/02/2016 10:31:20 AM PST by erkelly
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; over3Owithabrain

The MSM polls were done most likely by people who wanted Trump to be in the lead, as Cruz scares the hell out of them...................


18 posted on 02/02/2016 10:31:22 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: exnavy

Generally, I lie when I do surveys. I tell people I am of a different race, and give them false leads. I LOVE TO DO THIS. It’s a game. Even when the Census takers come, I never give my true religion or my true race. KIND OF LIKE THE MODERN THING, I DO IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN, OR BLACK, OR MIGHT EVEN BE A WHITE MAN LOCKED IN A BLACK BODY.


19 posted on 02/02/2016 10:31:26 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The polls weren’t wrong. Creative counting and a conveniently tweaked Microsoft app did the job they were supposed to do.


20 posted on 02/02/2016 10:31:35 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Proud bitter clinger)
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