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TIMELINE: How Cruz's Camp Spun A Ben Carson Hoax During The Iowa Caucuses
TPM ^ | February 3, 2016, 2:12 PM EST | Katherine Krueger

Posted on 02/04/2016 4:27:58 AM PST by Red Steel

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To: mkjessup

No flames from me.
I agree with you.
Well said!


41 posted on 02/04/2016 5:33:14 AM PST by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Red Steel

My experience with Cruz supporters on social media is they are very rude. They call all the other canidates childrss names and their supportets.

If asked a question instead of snsweri g they resort to name calling.

The invade posts for other canidayes and try to take over the posting and drive other people off thr post.

Several times I’ve identified paid staff.


42 posted on 02/04/2016 5:35:27 AM PST by stockpirate (Fox News aka - False News Network "We deceive, you believe.")
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To: Guenevere

Thank you FRiend, I appreciate that. :)


43 posted on 02/04/2016 5:35:42 AM PST by mkjessup (Sarah Palin says "GO TRUMP GO!!!!")
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To: nclaurel

Denial is a huge dirty river running strong here on FR.


44 posted on 02/04/2016 5:35:53 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Red Steel

The details show clearly that Cruz’ top people knew they were twisting the facts to a fraud.

Rather than send the messages to their staff members, they sent them to all 1500 precinct captains who announced to Carson supporters that he was dropping out and to caucus with the Cruz crowd.

The fraud likely caused with just 4 voters per precinct (~6000) for Cruz to top Trump in vote counts.

Ted Cruz likely knew nothing about it at the time but he is responsible for the ethical conduct of his top staff. Although he apologized, he refuses to take disciplinary action against his managers.

This incident will be buried in the coming weeks but it marks a footnote on the character of the people around Cruz.


45 posted on 02/04/2016 5:37:22 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: ETL

Blaming CNN doesn’t cut it.

The Cruz campaign management knew it was an error as the Carson campaign messaged them that it was not true before they sent the lie out to 1500 precinct captains.

They knew it was an error, yet they still sent it out so that 1500 precincts would herd Carson voters in with the Cruz caucus.

CNN started the rumor, the Carson campaign corrected the rumor, but the ground management ignored the message that it was an error. This is clear fraud.

Not every voter was watching CNN. They were listening to precinct captains who were telling them that Carson was dropping out and to caucus with the Cruz people.

It was clear fraud with a message timeline that confirms it.


46 posted on 02/04/2016 5:43:47 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hattie

“Carson’s mouth did all the hanky panky to himself.”

Someone goes out. Someone else breaks into their house and steals things. To you Cruzers, I guess it’s the fault of that stupid person for going out!

Do you have people have any sense of right or wrong at all? Or is garbage like “Politics is a blood sport!” justification for ANY dirty tricks the Canadian Preacher plays?


47 posted on 02/04/2016 5:47:55 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
No one. Frickin. Cares.

Sure......just like no one cared when, during the last election, tires were slashed, ballot boxes were driven around half the night in the trunks of cars, homeless people were paid in cigarettes and booze for votes, etc.

Maybe we'd like our own side to stop with the political dirty tricks. Just because we need to be aware of what the Dems are capable of, doesn't mean we have to participate in these kinds of antics.

48 posted on 02/04/2016 5:48:00 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! Trump and Cruz, abolish the GOPe!)
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To: Red Steel

The most important thing missing from this timeline is the fact that the ‘info’ ORIGINATED with CARSON himself.

If he didn’t want it to affect the voting, he shouldn’t have started spreading the word about his plans.


49 posted on 02/04/2016 5:48:15 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: hoosiermama

WOW! Karl Rove Explains How Cruz Camp’s Cheating Stole Iowa from Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocgEmgXXwF8


50 posted on 02/04/2016 5:50:33 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: UCANSEE2

Cruz and Steve King are trash


51 posted on 02/04/2016 5:52:37 AM PST by scooby321
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To: McGruff
And why did Cruz apologize if he didn't do anything wrong?

In certain judge's eyes, an apology indicates an admission of guilt. I believe cases are won or lost when it's been revealed that one of the parties issued an apology.....

Sure makes Cruz look like he knew exactly what happened.

52 posted on 02/04/2016 5:56:57 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! Trump and Cruz, abolish the GOPe!)
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To: Red Steel

Well there is no way to re-do the Iowa election but Cruz’s credibility took a big hit with a lot of republican voters. I was shocked at that shaming letter. After that the other dirty trix were not surprising. Getting a written reprimand from the Iowa Sec of State does not help your credibility.


53 posted on 02/04/2016 5:56:59 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: dynoman

And he is definitely not a Trump supporter.
Second showing did not air last night. Hopefully it will be aired several times this weekend


54 posted on 02/04/2016 5:58:54 AM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: CaptainK

Are you purposely ignoring all the other stuff, or just waking up?


55 posted on 02/04/2016 6:00:14 AM PST by jstaff
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To: Red Steel
This deleted tweet by Dan Gabriel needs to be fit in somewhere too.

Here's who Dan Gabriel is;

Google search -> Deleted tweet dan gabriel Ted Cruz


56 posted on 02/04/2016 6:00:45 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: mongrel

Here is how I see it.

“Carson shoots himself in foot. Blames gun and bullet.”


57 posted on 02/04/2016 6:02:27 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Red Steel

58 posted on 02/04/2016 6:03:22 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Trump or Cruz, if you don't vote then STFU and leave the country, non-voters =non-Republic.)
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To: Hostage

There is a thread pointing out that this is not the first a particular Cruz staff member used the identical — he’s pulling out of the race give me all your votes — scam.


59 posted on 02/04/2016 6:03:43 AM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: scooby321
Cruz and Steve King are trash

My opinion of them has sure changed, especially Cruz. I used to defend his "I didn't know about my Canadian citizenship" claim but he's had too many, "I didn't know's" for me to believe him any longer.

I'm tired of being tricked by Republican's character (let's see, there's been John Roberts, Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, John Boehner... many that I believed were pulling for us only to be disappointed)

60 posted on 02/04/2016 6:05:37 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! Trump and Cruz, abolish the GOPe!)
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