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TRUMP: not a liberal or a conservative, but a pragmatist
Intellectual Froglegs ^ | 2/5/16 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 02/08/2016 6:47:05 AM PST by bigtoona

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To: bigtoona

Trump has been very specific about what he wants to do. Most of that is what conservatives want: economic growth and good jobs; national security; secured borders and legal immigration; fair trade; respect for the law and law enforcement; local control of education; lowered and simplified taxes; robust middle class; limited government; respect for Christianity; and reduced regulations that harm economic growth. If he get this stuff done, I’ll be happy regardless of labels.


41 posted on 02/08/2016 7:48:51 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: 4rcane

Agreed, his views may not follow the hard conservative talking points but they follow common sense! On healthcare, he specifically said that we need to repeal Obamacare and remove the state barriers and take care of the indigent, not allow these people to ‘die in the street’. I don’t have a problem with that.


42 posted on 02/08/2016 7:48:58 AM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever Trump is the only hope.)
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To: skeeter
The Constitution is all that keeps us from anarchy and our nation from being destroyed.
Most Americans do not understand this.

The government only has the power that the Constitution gives it; no matter how “good” the current “shiny” thing looks that the government wants to do/implement.

43 posted on 02/08/2016 7:49:29 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: CodeToad
Totally agree. Pragmatic politics with a pro-American position is what we need right now.

Totally disagree. The Constitution matters, especially after 8 years of being openly ignored. Yes, Trump COULD get several things done faster, and most of them might even be what we would like to see (nobody knows what he will do, only that he has promised the political right that their wants will be met.... it wouldn't be the first time this millennium that we elected someone under that assumption)... but the manner in which he does it all will be copied by future liberal and socialist presidents. That is another of the many risks that Trump-loving conservatives seem to ignore.

44 posted on 02/08/2016 7:49:39 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317

I want someone that first represents my country. Cruz and Rubio represents foreign interests.


45 posted on 02/08/2016 7:51:10 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Make no mistake, I don’t agree with anyone who says we need to get more things done in Washington or create new programs to fix something. When I say he can ‘fix’ things, I mean he can make people obey and enforce our laws as they are written. He can fix common core by getting rid of it as he has stated. When I say fix, I mean I think he can roll back some of this nightmare.


46 posted on 02/08/2016 7:52:15 AM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever Trump is the only hope.)
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To: bigtoona

Good article. It’s common sense that we need in this country right now, and that’s what a pragmatist is. I agree, Trump is a pragmatist.


47 posted on 02/08/2016 7:52:20 AM PST by georgiegirl
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To: BenLurkin

>> But will the trains run on time? <<

Do you mean to suggest that Mussolini was neither a liberal nor a conservative?

Shame on you!


48 posted on 02/08/2016 8:00:27 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: bigtoona
And I think that when he says "fix", he means taking an active role in "fixing" whatever he perceives the problem to be. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Nixon was a pragmatist, and instituted wage and price controls because he saw a problem that needed "fixing". And I think virtually every Republican condemned as a RINO would also defend themselves of pragmatic grounds, as would most Democrats.

49 posted on 02/08/2016 8:02:41 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Yes. In politics the Constitution and a politician’s devotion to it are the ONLY things that matter.


50 posted on 02/08/2016 8:04:07 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SC_Pete

>> Trump has been very specific about what he wants to do <<

Laugh line of the month?


51 posted on 02/08/2016 8:05:31 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

Which do you think he was?


52 posted on 02/08/2016 8:06:32 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: bigtoona

>> he can make people obey <<

So that’s the President’s job? To make people obey?

Shouldn’t you be posting your thoughts over on DU?


53 posted on 02/08/2016 8:08:13 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: bigtoona

Correction, not a liberal or conservative but an egotistical opportunist.

Trump first, everything else doesn’t matter.


54 posted on 02/08/2016 8:08:48 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“In other words, a liberal.”

Yep.


55 posted on 02/08/2016 8:10:24 AM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: bigtoona

I agree with Mychal Massie. Trump is not a hardcore conservative but since he agrees with about 90% of what Mr. GG2 and I think he isn’t a Liberal because we are conservative. Here’s the deal I have said he’s a natural born problem solver and he’s conservative enough. I want to elect the guy and turn him loose for four years and see what he can accomplish.

Folks one thing Trump is really right about, the politicians are not gonna get you to the promised land.


56 posted on 02/08/2016 8:13:03 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
A pragmatic way to solve that would be to put price controls on the cost of medical care.

In my opinion, that is opposite of what a pragmatist would do.

Price controls is what a socialist, politician would do to solve the problem. There are legions of examples of politicians doing that.

As a person who worked in business for many years, a pragmatist, i think I am one, sees a problem, identifies it and then proceeds to find a meaningful solution that works. That is not to say the solution is set in stone, but the solution gets things moving forward again to continue to meet the mission.

And, a big and is that as things progress the solution is constantly analyzed is appropriately tweeked to be more efficient.

57 posted on 02/08/2016 8:19:47 AM PST by Parmy
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To: native texan; bigtoona

I also liked the article and agree with what it said.

I’d also like to point out that even here at Free Republic, Donald Trump is getting almost 2 votes to every 1 vote for Ted Cruz in the FR daily caucus.

If Ted can’t win an election here, how in the world will he win an election in the rest of the country?


58 posted on 02/08/2016 8:20:30 AM PST by Nacho Bidnith (America is a country founded by geniuses and run by idiots. Trump 2016)
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To: BenLurkin

>> Which do you think he was? <<

You mean Mussolini?

I think he was a guy who:

1. started out on the left,

2. decided he could get more support by soft-pedaling his leftist ideas, and then by appealing to nationalist and anti-foreign sentiments,

3. developed a strong cult of followers based mainly on his vociferous personality rather than specific policies,

4. promised to return his country to greatness, especially by appealing to its frustrated middle class,

5. held monster-sized rallies,

6. took power and made the trains run on time,

7. led his country to disaster,

8. was ultimately disowned by his people, after yuuuge damage had been done.

Did I forget anything important?


59 posted on 02/08/2016 8:21:03 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: trisham; onyx

Most folks have ceased from partisanship in posting fund raising appeals. It is unwise to alienate potential donors. Think!


60 posted on 02/08/2016 8:21:20 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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