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Russia is 'trying to draw Turkey into a fight' in Syria, and it may be working
businessinsider.com ^ | 02/09/2016 | Natasha Bertrand

Posted on 02/09/2016 1:15:39 PM PST by Trumpinator

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To: Trumpinator
So Russia can rule poor and resource-less people who hate Russia?

They already have plenty of those in Russia, eh comrade?

21 posted on 02/09/2016 1:31:46 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: 1rudeboy

The warm-water port thing... well there are a lot of NATO countries Russian ships would pass by to get from the Baltic republics to the North Sea.


22 posted on 02/09/2016 1:33:16 PM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: 1rudeboy

Time for around of golf!


23 posted on 02/09/2016 1:34:57 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: baltimorepoet

Please see my #18.


24 posted on 02/09/2016 1:35:06 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot
They already have plenty of those in Russia, eh comrade? - sure - see the graveyards and Siberia. But at least the Chechens have oil and gas. Why would Russia wanna rule Poland - it has nothing but Poles. Even the French don't want them - they ran election commercials saying France would be overrun by Poles if they relaxed their borders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Plumber

Is a symbol of cheap labour coming from Central Europe as a result of the directive on services in the internal market during the EU Constitution referendum in France in 2005.

25 posted on 02/09/2016 1:35:10 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: baltimorepoet; 1rudeboy

Not exactly a direct route to the Atlantic from Kalliningrad.


26 posted on 02/09/2016 1:36:37 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

How about answering the question?


27 posted on 02/09/2016 1:37:41 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: nickcarraway

NATO, after Turkey shot down the Russian military plane, met and pretty much told Turkey they were on their own with Russia and they (NATO) were not going to get involved.


28 posted on 02/09/2016 1:38:47 PM PST by biff
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To: 1rudeboy

Kalliningrad is not as important as it used to be. I don’t know why your shocked by that. It is secure - NATO won’t dare take it away from Russia.


29 posted on 02/09/2016 1:40:40 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

Just a yes or no will suffice.


30 posted on 02/09/2016 1:41:42 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: biff

Could you please provide a reference for that? And NATO doesn’t allow their members to defend their territory?


31 posted on 02/09/2016 1:43:57 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: PGR88

“Now they find that creating war can have terrible consequences.”

That qualifies as Breaking News!


32 posted on 02/09/2016 1:45:11 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Trumpinator
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3394943/posts

Turkey's rising tension with Russia over Kurds puts Erdoğan in a corner Syrian Kurdish party opening a Moscow office marks new nadir in relations, and could lead to Turkish forces crossing border Escalating tension between Russia and Turkey will reach a new high when the Democratic Union party (PYD), the leading Kurdish political organisation in north-eastern Syria, which Ankara regards as a terrorist group, opens a representative office in Moscow on Wednesday at Vladimir Putin’s personal invitation. The development comes amid a dangerous tug-of-war between Russia and the US for power and influence in strategic areas along the Turkey-Syria border. Washington backs the Syrian Kurds in fighting Islamic State (Isis) jihadis. Moscow’s priority is to thwart western-backed efforts to topple Bashar al-Assad’s Syrian regime. Turkey is caught in the middle. Its biggest fear is that the PYD could establish autonomous control over large areas of northern Syria, linking up with independent Iraqi Kurdistan and encouraging Turkey’s alienated ethnic Kurdish population to follow suit. Tens of thousands of Syrian refugees remain stranded at Turkish border Read more “Our ambition is to rally support behind our Kurdish enclave in Syria through this office,” said Abdulsalam Ali, the Syrian Kurdish envoy to Moscow who is a member of the PYD. Wednesday’s opening ceremony in Moscow, which is expected to be attended by Russian foreign ministry officials, is seen by Turkish politicians and analysts as a deliberate provocation and part of a wider bid to expand Russian regional influence.

33 posted on 02/09/2016 1:46:57 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: nickcarraway

It was in the news I believe the week after the shoot down. Turkey was playing tough with Russia expecting to be backed up by NATO. NATO saw straight thru their ruse and said forget it. I think NATO now regrets allowing Turkey into the club and have not figured out how to get rid of them.


34 posted on 02/09/2016 1:48:00 PM PST by biff
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To: baltimorepoet
Panama Canal

The President that used to be the worst in history gave that away.......

35 posted on 02/09/2016 1:51:43 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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36 posted on 02/09/2016 2:36:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: grania
Wouldn’t a war in the Mideast raise oil prices?

I certainly hope so.

37 posted on 02/09/2016 2:41:26 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: biff

NATO should have kicked Turkey out during the Iraq war when Turkey refused to let us fly over.

They got to say no.
We should have said ‘OUT!’


38 posted on 02/09/2016 3:57:38 PM PST by Bon mots
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