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Is He A Marxist?
Feb 13, 2016 | MosesKnows

Posted on 02/13/2016 7:09:08 AM PST by MosesKnows

Is He A Marxist?


I read a Free Republic post from Townhall.com that asserted that Bernie Sanders is a Marxist. Assertions of this sort usually create a discussion defining the labels and titles of the various forms of government control. This may prove a worthwhile endeavor but in the final analysis, it is pointless.

I found a way to satisfy myself that may appeal to others. I don't attempt to define the minutia but instead concentrate on the government I want. As it turns out, I want the same government the founders created when America's Constitution was ratified.

America's Declaration of Independence declared that the reason to institute a government is to secure the people's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of their happiness.

The document also declared that the people also have the right to alter or abolish any form of government that becomes an obstacle to the rights of the people.

Therefore, I do not attempt to define Socialism, Communism, Fascism, or Nazism.
I oppose any form of government that does have as its first priority the obligation to protect the people's rights.

I don't care how you label it, I don't care who invented it, I don't care who it is named after, I don't care who advocates it. If its first and foremost duty is not to protect rights then I want nothing to do with it. I will not support it, I will not defend it, and I will not respect it.

The founders gave Americans a beautifully wrapped gift of extraordinary value but if you don't unwrap and open the gift you won't know how or why to appreciate the gift.


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Which is the proper form of government for free people who desire to remain free?
1 posted on 02/13/2016 7:09:08 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows

“Which is the proper form of government for free people who desire to remain free? “

The one that makes its presence felt the least.


2 posted on 02/13/2016 7:16:44 AM PST by Daveinyork ("Trusting government with money and power is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys",)
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To: MosesKnows

Follow the money. Money is the power. Therefore, free markets is/are the best form for people to be free.


3 posted on 02/13/2016 7:18:53 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: MosesKnows

The left dems and the right rinos both are Marxist, and Bernie is a communist who wants to lead America into the pit of hell.


4 posted on 02/13/2016 7:19:45 AM PST by kindred (Time for a third party for Christians and conservatives and overtaxed patriots.)
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To: MosesKnows

The motto of America’s Middle Class, which gets stuck with the bills for every government program and intervention should be: LEAVE US ALONE.

We know that the elites despise us as inferiors because we did not graduate from their Ivy League schools. We are threatened and shamed into financing this bloated, corrupt government from our dwindling paychecks,and our children are turned against us by the Leftists in government schools paid for with those tax dollars.

The only weapon at this point is the ballot, and it is a puny one. We are sick and tired of being ignored by the frauds whom we vote for in good faith, but who never produce an ounce of relief.


5 posted on 02/13/2016 7:22:20 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: MosesKnows

As it turns out, I want the same government the founders created when America’s Constitution was ratified.”

sigh

yes that’s what we want, and it don’t exist....


6 posted on 02/13/2016 7:22:21 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: MosesKnows

Most of the really successful Marxists have at least a million dead at their hand. Bernie would probably have to at least be elected before he can get his.


7 posted on 02/13/2016 7:24:11 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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He's a Bolshevik Bast**d.
8 posted on 02/13/2016 7:25:36 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: MosesKnows

Bernie, by any name is bad for the country, period. He needs to go to Mother Russia. Perhaps he will when Donald Trump becomes President.


9 posted on 02/13/2016 7:27:52 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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>>>I want the same government the founders created when America’s Constitution was ratified<<<

Well then, you would be wanting a government that arrests those that commit treason and sedition and shoot them at dawn.

Yes, those were the good old days! :)


10 posted on 02/13/2016 7:28:38 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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He's just an old version of Hugo Chavez.

I think Stalin called them useful idiots.

11 posted on 02/13/2016 7:29:59 AM PST by Lakeshark
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I want the same government the founders created when America’s Constitution was ratified

Our Founders would have burned down these traitors houses with them inside.

I could live with that.

12 posted on 02/13/2016 7:31:24 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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He’s a Bolshevik Bast**d.

Exactly. Bernie AND Hillary are STALINists. Marx just had ideas, perhaps goofy and dangerous, but at least they were merely ideas. Stalin on the other hand, had a plan, a cold heart, an army and a machine to back it up. Bernie and Hillary are trying their best to replicate Stalin’s success (?) in Russia.

Just my opinion.

They all suck.

Oldplayer


13 posted on 02/13/2016 7:31:45 AM PST by oldplayer
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I read a Free Republic post from Townhall.com that asserted that Bernie Sanders is a Marxist.

Why yes. And in other news:

Water is wet
Noses run
Feet smell

and yes Virginia, bears really do crap in the woods.

14 posted on 02/13/2016 7:34:05 AM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: MosesKnows

And by “rights” we mean “negative rights”, those which do not require anyone else’s compulsory involvement. Not to be confused with “positive rights” whereby the government practically enslaves others to facilitate that right.

Your “forget arguing about definitions, just take a stand” intent is laudable, but immediately risks the same problem: Bernie & co would fully agree with your stance, and then compel you to pay for an illegal immigrant’s health care as the latter’s “right”.


15 posted on 02/13/2016 7:34:49 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: uglybiker; MosesKnows
"Why yes. And in other news:

Water is wet
Noses run
Feet smell

and yes Virginia, bears really do crap in the woods."

All of that is very true - except for the part about any of it being "News."

16 posted on 02/13/2016 7:42:01 AM PST by shibumi (Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way)
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To: MosesKnows

17 posted on 02/13/2016 8:10:12 AM PST by plain talk
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To: MosesKnows

He’s a collectivist of whatever flavor of his choosing - Democrat, Socialist, Marxist, Stalinist, Maoist, Progressive, et al.


18 posted on 02/13/2016 8:19:40 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Robert DeLong
Bernie, by any name is bad for the country, period. He needs to go to Mother Russia.

He did on his honeymoon.

19 posted on 02/13/2016 8:22:39 AM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: Lakeshark
"I think Stalin called them useful idiots."

We mock and belittle Bernie at our own peril as we did with Obama back in 2008. The empty suit Barak got elected twice.

20 posted on 02/13/2016 8:26:34 AM PST by buckalfa (I am feeling much better now.)
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