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[Vanity] Why "originalism" matters.
Vanity ^ | 2016 | Vanity

Posted on 02/14/2016 6:04:52 PM PST by Arthur McGowan

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To: DiogenesLamp
scratchin my head regarding anybody born before 1776.

Van Buren was the first natural born president post Declaration of Independence, but we weren't a country yet when he was born.
It would seem once the Constitution was adopted, it didn't matter when, only where re: natural born. Hence Van Buren first natural born.

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,...”

the constitution was adopted 6/21/1788.

What am I missing ?

21 posted on 02/14/2016 10:23:07 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: nutmeg

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22 posted on 02/14/2016 10:25:53 PM PST by nutmeg (Get El Chapo to build The Wall)
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To: Vermont Lt

Exactly.


23 posted on 02/15/2016 7:23:34 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: stylin19a
Van Buren was the first natural born president post Declaration of Independence, but we weren't a country yet when he was born.

Huh? We were a country after July 4, 1776. We became the United States of America on that date.

the constitution was adopted 6/21/1788.

The US Constitution was our third governing document. The Articles of Confederation came before it in 1781,

and of course the Declaration was the document that founded the new nation.

What am I missing ?

I think you are conflating the writing of the US Constitution with the founding of the United States. This is incorrect. The United States was created by the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution was just a governing charter.

It didn't even go into effect until June 21, 1788. By this time, we had been an independent nation for 12 years.

24 posted on 02/15/2016 8:19:03 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

duh me. thanks


25 posted on 02/15/2016 9:17:04 AM PST by stylin19a
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