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Trump Is Right on Trade
Townhall.com ^ | February 19, 2016 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 02/19/2016 6:56:22 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Will88

How high should tariffs be to allow us to end welfare?


61 posted on 02/19/2016 9:50:51 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Kaslin
But do these Republicans, good free-traders all, realize their own indispensable role in converting an indigent China into the mighty and menacing power that seeks to push us out of Asia?

Back when bringing China into the WTO was discussed, I wrote Dick Armey, Ann Richardson and Phil Gramm that all we were doing is arming our enemy and that we'd be at war with them in 20 years (OK, I was off a bit). I told them they would then want to send my grandson off to war and it was gonna be "Hell no, he won't go!".

Gramm patted me on the head, saying that "globalism was good", Richardson never bothered to answer. Armey sent me a two page letter, laying out why it was good for America. At least he (or his staff) took the time to give a reasoned response.

Now, of a sudden, the current bunch is worried. I ought to suggest that they contact the above.

62 posted on 02/19/2016 9:55:10 AM PST by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
How high should tariffs be to allow us to end welfare?

Typical, simplistic, inane, nonsense from you.

63 posted on 02/19/2016 9:55:48 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

Won’t answer? Can’t?


64 posted on 02/19/2016 10:03:48 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Mase
Government should determine winners and losers rather than millions of free people freely making billions of purchasing decisions that are in the best interest of their families.

Compared to the income tax the Free Traitors™ hide behind tariffs are a damn fair tax engine.

65 posted on 02/19/2016 10:21:53 AM PST by central_va
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Won’t answer? Can’t?

You ask inane, stupid questions. Show me where I said tariffs would end welfare.

66 posted on 02/19/2016 10:23:08 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88
That's been a primary goal of many trade agreements: eliminate tariffs and make relocating US plants to cheap labor nations even more profitable because the goods they ship to the US will be tariff free.

You and I get it. It is so simple but so hard a concept for some to grasp. What is their problem? Are they just stupid?

67 posted on 02/19/2016 10:24:25 AM PST by central_va
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To: factoryrat

Anyone defending the British and Mercantilism during the revolutionary war usually found out what a noose felt like.


68 posted on 02/19/2016 10:26:48 AM PST by central_va
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To: Socon-Econ
If he starts a trade war with the rest of the world

Earth to Socon we are in a trade war now.

69 posted on 02/19/2016 10:28:12 AM PST by central_va
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To: pgkdan

Why are minors and farmers exalted but manufacturing workers hated?


70 posted on 02/19/2016 10:30:46 AM PST by central_va
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Tariffs don't raise the price of American goods?

The raise the price on IMPORTED goods.

71 posted on 02/19/2016 10:31:47 AM PST by central_va
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To: DugwayDuke
Pretty simple, if we place tariffs on imports, we can create high paying jobs here in America.

The workers in Indiana at carrier were making $14.00/hr. Is that high paid?

72 posted on 02/19/2016 10:34:17 AM PST by central_va
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To: central_va
You and I get it. It is so simple but so hard a concept for some to grasp. What is their problem? Are they just stupid?

I think a lot of them just had some theories crammed into their heads in college and left thinking they possessed great knowledge and wisdom. Now they seem incapable or unwilling to look at the negative results of those theories as implemented by our government over several decades.

Some are so in love with their theories that they'll never abandon them. And some might be profiting from the international trade scams.

My real position on this is: mostly free trade between nations of comparable living standards. And tariffs on imports from nations with far lower living standards, unless those have some unique product not available elsewhere.

But, then there are all those non-tariff trade barriers used all over the world. We should really be negotiating nation by nation rather then with all this big trading blocks.

73 posted on 02/19/2016 10:34:36 AM PST by Will88
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To: Regulator
Absolutely we should increase taxes on foreign businesses...

Because businesses always pay the taxes out of their profits, not consumers in the form of higher prices.

we do want to vote to protect American industry from unfair competition from foreign countries

Uh huh. And government is just the entity to get that done. Conservatives advocating for crony capitalism. Amazing.

So the U.S. having customs is "marxism"?

Huh?

74 posted on 02/19/2016 10:35:15 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: JBW1949
Tariffs create incentives for American companies to KEEP American goods to be manufactured out of the country.

Right. Because domestic producers would never raise their prices when the prices of their foreign competitors get increased. Economic reality doesn't change because you don't understand economics. You want to raise taxes and increase government control of the economy, at the expense of the middle class, to protect jobs in industries that manage to influence federal government bureaucrats. Remind me of this thread the next time you complain about corruption in government or crony capitalism.

75 posted on 02/19/2016 10:39:35 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Will88

LOL. The end of welfare as we know it rests in the ability of government to raise taxes. You heard it here first, folks. The answer to the problem government created is to give even more of our money to government, while allowing them greater power to control us. Some conservatives can be funny.


76 posted on 02/19/2016 10:43:11 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Will88

I agree with your assessment.


77 posted on 02/19/2016 10:56:57 AM PST by central_va
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To: Mase; Will88
The end of welfare income taxes as we know it rests in the ability of government to raise taxes tariffs.

Fixed.

78 posted on 02/19/2016 10:58:19 AM PST by central_va
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To: jpsb

Germany ramped up the colonization/”chartered company” of Africa in 1883-84 under Wilhelm I who gave the Chancellor basically free reign concerning foreign and domestic policy. Historians still question his sudden departure from his original position.


79 posted on 02/19/2016 11:03:48 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mase

Does history mean nothing? Tariffs brought us the great depression, started by a businessman who became President.
Also brought us the “The Great Society”


80 posted on 02/19/2016 11:14:09 AM PST by reggi
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