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Beware the Useful Idiots [Alinsky and How the Left Sees the Rest of Us]
Miller County Liberal ^ | 8/19/15 | Garret Geer

Posted on 02/24/2016 3:22:35 PM PST by Jim 0216

Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books. Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.

Enlarge Map. Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA.Education: University of Chicago. Spouse: Irene Alinsky.Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals

Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S.? All eight rules are currently in play.

How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare - Control healthcare and you control the people.

2) Poverty - Increase the Poverty level as high as possible; poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt - Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control- Remove the ability to defend themselves from the government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare - Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).

6) Education - Take control of what people read and listen to - take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion - Remove the belief in the God from the government and schools.

8) Class Warfare - Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent, and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States?

Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots."

The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: constitution; culture; government
Any of this sound familiar?
1 posted on 02/24/2016 3:22:35 PM PST by Jim 0216
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To: Jim 0216

A reality checklist

2 posted on 02/24/2016 3:25:02 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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To: Jim 0216

Overwhel, and collapse the system. 20 trillion in debt. 20 million illegal aliens. 80 trillion in future unfounded liabilities.

3 posted on 02/24/2016 3:26:14 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Jim 0216

A depressingly succinct distillation of leftist operational doctrine.

4 posted on 02/24/2016 3:28:46 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Jim 0216

5 posted on 02/24/2016 3:35:34 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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6 posted on 02/24/2016 3:38:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Jim 0216

what the left does not understand is that all it is, is the recipe for instability not for bringing about socialism....wreck the country the way they are doing and you don’t know what road society will fallow.... they might get socialism or communism but the reality is that anything could happen with the sabotage the left is doing and even if the leaders were to get the socialism they desire in all probability it would self destruct in a generation with the leaders of this socialistic and communistic group lined up and shot.

7 posted on 02/24/2016 3:40:59 PM PST by PCPOET7
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Folks, if you're reading this, you know what needs to happen.
If you can, please support the forum at this time. Thank you.

8 posted on 02/24/2016 3:42:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Jim 0216

Yep——the CIA targeted and infiltrated all groups—controlled and funded the Black Panthers-—controlled Time Magazine, all MSM. Infiltrated all communities to destroy them—flood groups with antithetical groups through “segregation”. Social Engineering to destroy cohesion and family units-—like the atom—split them and they explode and create chaos.

The textbooks are all controlled since 55, history rewritten, embedded with Psychology (Neo-Marxist/Freudian cr*p) that your children were forced to absorbed and it was repeated over and over and over-—using ALL subjects and Hollywood/music to corrupt (sexualize) and destroy Reason and maturity and understanding of history/Traditions in most children.

This was planned since before John Dewey-—it took over two generations to virtually flip 2000 years of philosophy/theology to the scientism, Islam/freemasonry “ethics” of sodomy and baby-killing and polygamy and humanism/postmodernism of the “God is Dead”group.

The State could make themselves into god-—and now-—look at the non-thinking “Bernie” bots. It is Menticide-—they did it with our school system and the satanists (hollywood producers who were raping all the kids and forcing their worldview in their programming).

Intentional. Absolutely. Provable. We need to take the minds of our children BACK......if we want to regain Sanity and Reason over satanism (base instincts determine Good and Evil).

As Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn stated-—Without God, everything is permissible. Only Christianity created the Age of Reason, Modern Science and the US Constitution. No other religion is rational to the point of Christianity-—NOTHING-—not even Deism. We need to return our “Justice” System NOW-—we have an irrational Vice System and it is “null and void”.

9 posted on 02/24/2016 3:45:39 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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They probably figure if they can get away with it in Russia they can get away with it anywhere.

However, sometimes I wonder where Obama is going to hide after he leaves office.

10 posted on 02/24/2016 3:47:50 PM PST by Jim 0216
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11 posted on 02/24/2016 3:49:19 PM PST by Signalman
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Usually with the collapse of a productive, law abiding society you get a strong man, or some group of strong men. The type of people who will kill anybody they perceive as a threat, or competition.
The Transi/Prog/Lib/Dem/Socialists won’t end up in charge, they will just end up DEAD.
The best examples are Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.
These types of people don’t have very much patience with those they don’t have an immediate use for; after their revolution they have a tendency to get rid of what they consider to be dead wood.

12 posted on 02/24/2016 4:12:07 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Jim 0216

Dedicated to Lucifer

13 posted on 02/24/2016 4:16:47 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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To: Signalman

Thanks for the correction, however, if Alinsky didn’t say it, he should have said it. Dang, I hate to fall for false stuff like that, I’m usually more careful.

Anyway, here’s apparently, the real list of Alinsky’s rules:

Always remember the first rule of power tactics: Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is: Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying “You’re right — we don’t know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us.”

The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

14 posted on 02/25/2016 7:15:48 AM PST by Jim 0216
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To: Donnafrflorida; 5th MEB; savagesusie; PCPOET7; DoughtyOne; Paine in the Neck; ...

Correction: The article and list posted here is apparently not from Alinsky according to Snopes. Thanks to Signalman for pointing this out.

According to Snopes, “This list is simply a modern variant of the decades-old, apocryphal Communist Rules for Revolution piece that was originally passed along without attribution until Alinsky’s name became attached to it (presumably because someone out there thought it sounded like something Alinsky might have written).”

Post #14 is what Snopes says is the actual Alinsky list - more generic but just as toxic and applicable to today’s Leftist tactics if not more so, than the one posted.

15 posted on 02/25/2016 10:22:38 AM PST by Jim 0216
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