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Mitt Romney, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, GOP Establishment....Tyrants

Posted on 03/03/2016 4:10:23 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX

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Ted Cruz for president! The real Conservative choice...


81 posted on 03/03/2016 4:14:26 PM PST by BreezyDog ((Trump is the democrat backup plan when Clinton gets indicted...))
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I have to laugh at you Cruzers, defending Mitt of all people is just so twisted. Anything for your boy ‘eh?

Where did I defend Mitt? Or are you mistaking me for Ann Coulter, who jumped from Mitt to Donald?


82 posted on 03/03/2016 5:42:47 PM PST by doosee (Captain, we are approaching a new level of Hell.)
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This man has an AWFUL record. I mean truly abhorrent.

No, it has been a mixed bag for sure, but abhorrent not. While you & I might not even consider donating to a Democrat and look negatively upon those that do, it is not something I can't classify as abhorrent. But again, and people want to discount this argument but it is a reality, as a businessman you must pay to play in the system that has been in place for decades now. Not only politicians, but gangsters as well.

Even Romney and Bain Capital have donated heavily to Democrats. But I bet you are so excited by the antics of Romney, who has shown more fight against Trump than he exhibited against Obama. He now trashes Trump even though Donald Trump endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012. He certainly had a different take on Donald back then. This is nothing but a consorted effort that is being well funded and orchestrated against Donald Trump to ensure Donald hasn't a chance to win. If he is so in the GOPe corner, as people keep insinuating, why would they do this?

The reality is they are frightened by Donald Trump, but not for any harm he will do the country. The only concern they have shown about this country is when the want to get back in power. When given that power they govern just like the Democrats they replaced. So if it is not real concern about this country and what Donald would do, their concern must be of a personal nature as to what damage he will do to them.

While Ted Cruz may be the more ideal candidate for people like us that embrace conservatism, his appeal does not extend much beyond us. It is a reality. While we might get motivated in support of him, he does not generate large scale excitement. That is evident by how he has faired thus far in the primary process. He has won three states but none by large margins. In many states he has come in third or worse. This notion that Cruz does better against Hillary than Trump is being driven by polls that do not match with reality.

This is Donald Trump's tax plan which is quite different than what you have stated based upon past statements he may have uttered. While I think it is a step in the right direction, I believe it must also be accompanied by reductions in spending otherwise the debt will expand even faster. Just like Bush's tax cuts some are complaining the rich get richer. The reality is that the rich just do not get soaked as heavily which in turn does allow them to keep more of their money. Money that can be invested in businesses to employ more people. Which in turn will add more to the tax roles and remove them from food stamps, unemployment and other safety net assistance programs.

Ted Cruz has an impressive record of standing up for liberty, which not one being honest can refute, and I commend him for this. However, he has always placed himself in positions where he would have the opportunity to wage those battles.

Donald did the same in business because that is where his focus was concentrated upon. He wanted to create things. That is also a positive trait to have. While it certainly enriches him it also creates economic opportunities for others. Either through investments or employment. He has created jobs for people whereas Ted Cruz has not. So just looking at one aspect does not make one more desirable than another. I myself look at both as having made positive contributions to society and this country.

Your belief regarding Trump and gay marriage just do not hold any truth whatsoever. I myself do not want hatred or discrimination to be hoisted upon them. I am against the notion that they are normal and should be celebrated. Instead they are unfortunate victims. Even though I hate that term I think it applies. They are victims of perceptions they themselves hold. Whether those perceptions are totally self induced or influenced due to biological factors are open to debate for sure.

Regardless of the true culprit, it does not deserve celebration, nor does it deserve condemnation. If God sees fit to condemn them that will be between them and God. I will celebrate their personal successes regardless of their sexual behavior. To even discuss their sexual behaviors is not something I wish to even engage in. In my heart it is immoral, which is why I will not embrace it. However, it is also immoral to treat otherwise productive citizens as pariah. While I have an unshaking believe in God, I fins myself to not be religious at all. Because I have seen religions as being capable of horrendous acts that in my belief do not abide by God's will either.

I myself abhor all abortions, but that was not always the case. Late term abortions were the first that I raised objections to because the method itself was nothing short of cruel and inhumane. Thanks to the recent exposes regarding the selling of baby parts has taken me to complete objection on the whole abortion subject. I believe we are creating the biggest sin of all in allowing abortions to continue.

The only instance I may even see some justification is when the mother's life may be endangered. But after the abortion that woman needs to have herself sterilized to prevent another abortion occurring for her.

I tell you this because I too was pro-choice, but knowledge and understanding of realities play roles in our opinions and how those opinions can change. I would be a big hypocrite if I held this against Donald Trump since I am like him, a reformed abortion advocate.

I honestly believe, and of course may be wrong, but I think the support he gives Planned Parenthood is because he wants women to have access to medical care. However, I do not agree with him on Planned Parenthood because I think they offer very little is services to women other than abortion. Hopefully he will demand they cease and desist from all abortion activities or at least demand Federal monies be paid to them.

Let me finish by saying that I find it disconcerting, to say the least, that given the choice of saving this country you would allow your beliefs (right or wrong) to possibly allow the Democrat to win the White House. I certainly would not hold my beliefs hold ne back from voting for Ted Cruz. My beliefs would require me to go against the very constitution I hold in high regard, because in my heart of hearts I do not believe Ted Cruz is eligible to be our President by the fact he is not a natural born citizen. Same holds true for Rubio as well. But I would take that chance of Ted being successfully hauled in court and them deciding against him. I think Donald deserves the same from Cruz supporters.

United we stand, divided we fall. They, democrats, have been very successful in dividing us just enough to allow the worse possible choice for America to be elected.

May the best man win, and may God bless this nation. In return we must praise God and allow him to return to the village square and everywhere else.

83 posted on 03/04/2016 6:59:02 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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