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The Dirty Little Secret about All-Electric Vehicles
The American thinker ^ | March 5, 2016 | Dexter Wright

Posted on 03/05/2016 5:37:36 AM PST by AU72

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To: jsanders2001
I’ve thought about this very thin. Every time I see a Prius I see a liberal who bought the global warming hook line and sinker.

I know a lot of people (mostly libs) who brought a Prius or other hybrid. I don't know anyone who is a repeat buyer.

21 posted on 03/05/2016 6:14:52 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: BBB333

Here in the snow belt, nobody buys an electric car. I have seen a grand total of two Chevy Volt, and zero Nissan Leaf, or Tesla anything.

No one in their right mind buys an electric car around here. The closest you’ll see is a hybrid, and even damned few of those.


22 posted on 03/05/2016 6:16:01 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: BBB333

The 220 in your home is 2 110 volt hots and a ground and/or neutral... neither line is a true 220.. if they where your house would have 440 volts.


23 posted on 03/05/2016 6:17:19 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: al_c

Could have got a tdi from vw for 50+ mpg and free money from vw..


24 posted on 03/05/2016 6:18:25 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: BBB333

It seems that that you, and others, are right on this. Thanks for the corrections. I still think it was a good article.

I like American Thinker articles because, for one thing, the authors seem to think a little. We get new and different ideas. The occasional down-side is a lack of review and editing.


25 posted on 03/05/2016 6:19:16 AM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: cableguymn
they where your house would have 440 volts.

To tap 440v you need to climb the pole and wear thick rubber gloves too.

26 posted on 03/05/2016 6:20:49 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AU72

The high-voltage AC power distribution system is fairly efficient, that’s why we use it, I really doubt 66% losses.


27 posted on 03/05/2016 6:22:30 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: AU72

“there is a stepdown station where the 440 voltage in the transmission lines is converted to 220 volts.”

Say what? Typically distribution is 4800 to 13,200 volts then is stepped down to 220/240 volts single phase and routed into your meter along with a “neutral” wire from the tub on the pole. Transmission can run as high as 480,000 volts or higher for transmission over long distances.


28 posted on 03/05/2016 6:26:52 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: AU72

Old news...Rush has mentioned these same things for years. Electric cars are for limited niche markets.


29 posted on 03/05/2016 6:28:23 AM PST by exPBRrat
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To: aquila48
“Having solar or wind power in combination with an electric vehicle is the way to go.”

My impression is that wind and solar are negligible sources of electricity and should remain so for the foreseeable future.

We force-fed solar panels onto some government installations in the 1970s. They since broke, leaked all over the place, and were removed. They made no economic sense at the time. I doubt they make economic sense today.

Remove mandates and subsidies and I think most of the existing wind and solar will go away. But I'm willing to put it to the test!

30 posted on 03/05/2016 6:30:56 AM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: Ouderkirk

I own a Tesla. No yearly service required. After 500,000 miles, YES, 500,000 miles i will need the bearings replaced. No oil change. All I replace is washer fluid.

It costs about 8.00 to fully charge. I use the free Tesla pumps so I spend no money for fuel. Granted, the price for gas is low, at this time. Plugging my car inside my garage, if needed, certainly beats going to a gas station.


31 posted on 03/05/2016 6:34:59 AM PST by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: jsanders2001

Prius is powered 100% by gasoline. It’s just very efficient at using that gas. It does not rely on the electrical grid.

Hybrids, like electrics, generally aren’t worth their premium for typical use, but the tech is pretty cool and reliable. They have the same appeal as other upscale/luxury vehicles.


32 posted on 03/05/2016 6:39:02 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jsanders2001

Me too, how about the guy down the street from me with two, count them, TWO Volts.


33 posted on 03/05/2016 6:41:44 AM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: BBB333; AU72
We use only 1 of the two 110 legs for normal 110 AC power.

So, you admit that the power coming from the utility pole and going into your home is 2 legs of 110. Which is exactly what AU72 was saying.

You only get 220 because the 2 legs are each 110 and used in conjunction for devices requiring 220.

Let's put it this way. If you have 2 12-volt batteries and you connect them in series to power a device needing 24 volts, does that (somehow magically) make each battery 24 volts ?

34 posted on 03/05/2016 6:42:02 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Labyrinthos

“I know a lot of people (mostly libs) who brought a Prius or other hybrid. I don’t know anyone who is a repeat buyer.”

Describes my brother-in-law. He acted smugly superior when he bought it. He’s since indicated he won’t be a repeat buyer. Makes one wonder.


35 posted on 03/05/2016 6:42:53 AM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: jsanders2001

But, he’s only got a 5 mile commute to work. I have a sales territory and routinely drive 200-300 miles a day. Imagine how my efficiency would plummet if I had to stop every 45 miles for a 6 hour recharge.


36 posted on 03/05/2016 6:43:12 AM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: BBB333
And for Pete’s sake, stop winning about rising food and electric costs!

Very true. As a percentage of disposable income, we today are paying the lowest food costs in the world, and the lowest in American history. The farmgate price of the commodities in the American grocery basked is less than 14 cents on the dollar.

Americans are buying many things other than food with our grocery dollars. First and foremost, we are buying access, with a mind-boggling marketing system that gives us 24/7 access to an historically unprecedented global cornucopia. We are buying fresh fruits and vegetables out of season, variety, freshness, taste, and food safety. We are buying convenience, with an ever-increasing array of ready to eat prepared foods. Over 40 percent of our food is purchased at restaurants, which is the ultimate in convenience. An upscale fraction of consumers also purchases foods as a status symbol -- the Whole Foods/Starbucks crowd, for whom overcharging is part of the attraction -- and others pay a premium for "natural" and "organic" and "locally grown" foods as a matter of religious ritual and political correctness.

Any American complaining about rising food costs has ample opportunity to save a LOT of money by shopping more intelligently and doing more of his own food preparation.

37 posted on 03/05/2016 6:45:22 AM PST by sphinx
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To: UCANSEE2

What’s your point?

I use ONE leg for 110.

I use TWO legs for 220.

Pretty clear.


38 posted on 03/05/2016 6:45:24 AM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: EandH Dad

I knew solar was completely inefficient but didn’t hear that part of it.

The other one is how much less efficient a dirty solar panel is. I wonder how many of these poor saps journey up on the roof every couple weeks to wash their panels and get a tan.


39 posted on 03/05/2016 6:46:09 AM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: sphinx

Did you reply to the wrong Freeper?


40 posted on 03/05/2016 6:46:22 AM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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