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*LIVE - SATURDAY MARCH 5 GOP PRIMARY THREAD*
3/5/2016 | tatown

Posted on 03/05/2016 7:30:32 AM PST by tatown

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To: goldstategop

POlls ALways undershoot conservatives. Always.


581 posted on 03/05/2016 3:08:45 PM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: Ulysse

Look its just as irritating as chit but we are going to have to put up with Cruz yapping about how he’s the only candidate who can beat Trump for one more election night. This is it for him. Likely Trump will take KY and LA and he gets delegates from KS and ME so no way Teddy catches up. The Cruzbots will be dancing around the fire tonight but its not really meaningful.


582 posted on 03/05/2016 3:08:48 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Pinkbell

Oops, sorry, #571


583 posted on 03/05/2016 3:09:15 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Fast Ed97

would you believe that CRUZ is doing very well in California!


584 posted on 03/05/2016 3:09:35 PM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Enlightened1

No, I was at a KS caucus. There was a lot of support there for Cruz. Also, the anti-Trump sentiment was strong with those not there to support him. My guess is that is part of what resulted in the huge turnout. It worked against him not for him. Personally, I would have crawled over broken glass to vote for Cruz and against Donald Trump, and I was far from the only GOP voter there who felt that way. I even talked to a couple of undecided voters that were mostly there to vote against Trump. I tried to persuade them to vote Cruz. I think Trump’s antics at the last couple of debates may have caused a backlash against him here in Kansas today. He just doesn’t seem to take things seriously enough. Probably because he doesn’t see Hillary as the threat that we do.


585 posted on 03/05/2016 3:09:37 PM PST by KansasGirl (I voted for Ted Cruz today!)
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To: pollywog

With the illegals ?


586 posted on 03/05/2016 3:10:21 PM PST by Carry me back (.Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: goldstategop

The Maine numbers are just not updating. It seems like it’s been stuck on the same figures for an hour or so.


587 posted on 03/05/2016 3:10:25 PM PST by mtrott
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To: KansasGirl

Thanks for your Cruz vote KansasGirl !!!!


588 posted on 03/05/2016 3:10:47 PM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: mtrott

I see Trump fanboy, Drudge, doesn’t have his gimmicky poll on today. The Trumpbots would have insured another Drudge ‘poll’ win, but that would counter the actual results of the people voting.

It’s all downhill for the Donald. There’s all another season of the Apprentice or visits to Howard Stern.


589 posted on 03/05/2016 3:10:58 PM PST by JerseyRepub (2008 Obama cultists = 2016 Trump cultists)
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To: Enlightened1

I would not put it past the GOPe to tamper in our elections. They are desperate hell they would help Hillary win that should tell you who they are.


590 posted on 03/05/2016 3:11:44 PM PST by McCarthysGhost (We need to repeal and replace the Republican Party)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

KY looks good for Trump - they’re hopeful there and Trump should be strong in LA with all the blue collar crowd he’s running very well with.

At worst for Trump, the night will be a wash and he’ll still take home a boatload of delegates coming in second.


591 posted on 03/05/2016 3:11:47 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Carry me back

HA... not at all. With some sick and tired Republicans that want change!! REAL CONSERVATIVE CHANGE!!!! THere’s a swelling surge to take back our state!


592 posted on 03/05/2016 3:12:02 PM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Kenny

Now you sound like John Kerry in 2004.

He won the exit polls!!


593 posted on 03/05/2016 3:12:02 PM PST by JRochelle (A vote for Trump in the primary is a vote for Hillary in November.)
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To: KansasGirl

I would not have predicted the margin, but not overly shocked that Kansas went Cruz.

Have to wait and see how the rest of the night goes before drawing any major conclusions.


594 posted on 03/05/2016 3:12:07 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: JerseyRepub

You imbeciles are handing it back to the establishment. I’ve been on FR long enough to know the people here are smart so I don’t know what the hell happened to you.


595 posted on 03/05/2016 3:12:46 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: mtrott

Must not be adding right for the establishment. Lol


596 posted on 03/05/2016 3:13:05 PM PST by Carry me back (.Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Rome2000
Trump will underperform in the caucus in Kentucky, it is closed, which will keep low-info voters out. COLORADO: I chaired my precinct in Tuesday's Colorado Caucus, which elected delegates to the higher Assembly where the delegates to National will be elected April 8-9. We had 4 delegate slots to fill. Trump got zero. It's the same in nearby precincts. I was surprised at how few Trumpers showed up. Hard to get actual numbers since for the most part, people just say verbally (if they feel like it) who they are for, so there are no records on paper of which presidential candidate got the most support, and thus nothing for the press to report, but the people who will choose the national delegates are baked in the cake, and Trumpers are hard to find.

But take it to the bank, Trump lost Colorado, and lost it big.

597 posted on 03/05/2016 3:13:20 PM PST by cookcounty (Why are Trump's poll numbers against a wounded Hillary so AWFUL? Hello? No answer?)
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To: JRochelle

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whats-at-stake-for-republicans-in-this-weekends-elections/

Kansas caucuses

At stake: 40 delegates: 12 district, 28 statewide
Delegate targets to be on track to win nomination: Trump 16, Cruz 20, Rubio 13

We have just two polls in Kansas, the minimum number FiveThirtyEight’s model requires to issue a forecast. That forecast makes Donald Trump a slight favorite, but Kansas holds closed caucuses (only registered Republicans can vote), and Trump has underperformed with self-identified Republicans, so don’t be surprised if he loses here. Trump hasn’t done all that well in caucuses, and Ted Cruz won Kansas’s southern neighbor, Oklahoma, and Iowa, just to the northeast. Three delegates are awarded proportionally in each of Kansas’s four congressional districts, with no minimum thresholds. So Cruz, Trump and Marco Rubio will likely split those. An additional 25 delegates are proportionally awarded to each candidate who finishes above 10 percent statewide. Those too will likely be split among Cruz, Trump and Rubio. Another three delegates go to the statewide winner.

Kentucky caucuses

At stake: 46 statewide delegates
Delegate targets: Trump 21, Cruz 20, Rubio 17

The one poll of Kentucky conducted in February found Trump with 35 percent, Rubio with 22 percent, Cruz with 15 percent and John Kasich with 6 percent.1 I have no idea if that’s right. There hasn’t been enough polling for us to issue a forecast, and caucuses are hard to poll anyway. Like in Kansas, however, there’s a chance Trump underperforms in Kentucky because it holds a caucus, which requires more organization than a primary. Either way, Kentucky is unlikely to alter the delegate math much; all its delegates are awarded proportionally with just a 5 percent threshold.

Louisiana primary

At stake: 46 delegates: 18 district, 28 statewide
Delegate targets: Trump 23, Cruz 22, Rubio 14

Trump will probably roll in Louisiana. Not only has he done well in other Deep South states so far, but both the FiveThirtyEight polls-plus and polls-only forecasts have him finishing with somewhere around 45 percent of the vote. Even if Trump romps, though, Louisiana’s delegate rules won’t allow him to rack up a large margin. Three delegates are awarded proportionally in each of the state’s six congressional districts, with no threshold. The 28 statewide delegates are awarded proportionally with a 20 percent threshold. That may mean that Rubio misses out on those statewide delegates because both FiveThirtyEight forecasts have him falling just short of 20 percent. (Cruz is above 25 percent in both models.) But there’s a catch: Unlike almost every other state, Louisiana allows unbound delegates. If a candidate receives 45 percent of the vote, they receive 45 percent of the delegates, regardless of how many candidates cross the 20-percent threshold. Any leftover delegates go to the convention unbound, which means it’s unlikely any candidate will win a majority of delegates from Louisiana. (Are you sensing a theme yet?)

Maine caucuses

At stake: 23 statewide delegates
Delegate targets: Trump 9, Cruz 9, Rubio 10

Maine, like Kansas, holds closed caucuses. That’s bad for Trump. On the other hand, Trump has dominated contests in New England so far (see Massachusetts and New Hampshire), and he has the endorsement of Maine Gov. Paul LePage. But like the rest of the Saturday contests, the threshold to receive any delegates is low, just 10 percent. Even Kasich, who has easily hit 10 percent in all three New England contests so far, could receive some delegates from Maine. If the statewide winner in Maine gets over 50 percent of the vote, he’ll sweep all 23 delegates. But that seems unlikely given that no candidate has gotten over 50 percent in any contest so far.

Puerto Rico primary

At stake: 23 delegates territory-wide
Delegate targets: Trump 8, Cruz 8, Rubio 15

We’ll get a good test of whether Hispanics truly “love” Trump this Sunday in the Puerto Rico primary. Most of the political organization on the island is in Rubio’s corner. Puerto Rico was also very friendly to mainstream Republican Mitt Romney in 2012; Romney received 83 percent of the vote. Puerto Rico’s 23 delegates are awarded proportionally to each candidate finishing above 20 percent of the vote. It would be quite a blow to Trump’s “Hispanics love me” argument if he finished below that threshold, though he hasn’t gotten below 20 percent in any contest yet. The 23 delegates become winner-take-all if a candidate gets above 50 percent of the vote.


598 posted on 03/05/2016 3:13:56 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

He said, roughly, take an oath that no matter how you feel that day, no matter the weather, that you will get to the voting booth and cast your vote for me.


599 posted on 03/05/2016 3:14:04 PM PST by turbocat
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To: JRochelle

“If Cruz gets the over 50% he gets all the delegates.
And so far the #s have him over that.

So 0 for Trump!!!”

Well, Cruz now at 45%, and I would be shocked if he didn’t go down from there. I’ll just be glad if he pulls out a win there.


600 posted on 03/05/2016 3:14:30 PM PST by mtrott
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